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    Posted: December/25/2020 at 15:33
Question; Can the rings of Saturn (and possibly a few of Jupiter's moons) be seen with 8 x 42 binoculars?


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I highly doubt it. With my Celestron 6SE and a 25mm eyepiece they are just distinguishable and that is at 60X - focal length is 1500 mm.

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Can they be seen with any binoculars?  What size?

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Several weeks ago I read an article that said binoculars could see the rings and the moons but I couldn't see anything with 7 X 50s......
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I would think that any binos with enough aperture and magnification to make out enough detail to see the rings would have to be on a very sturdy mount.
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This is what I was viewing using a 6” SC with a 25mm eyepiece with good seeing. Magnification is 60X.



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Excellent photo, Craig.  
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Excellent photo, Craig.  

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I was using an 80mm spotting scope on tripod... with 20-60 eye piece... to see Mars in past, maybe that would work. 👍


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That is a good photo Dan, wish I could claim it. It is a photo from one of my astronomy websites that accurately portrays what I view through my setup as mentioned. I have tried to bump up the mag but unless the seeing is excellent it works against you. Still, pretty happy with that. Jupiter and the four Galilean moons are a beautiful sight as well.
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So far I only view visually but I’m going to try an adapter that will allow mounting my cell hone camera over the eyepiece. Not sure how that will work out but not a big investment.
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A semi-decent* 8x42 should allow one to see the 4 moons of Jupiter AND the rings of Saturn. I know a 7x50 will. However, if the SEEING** is not good, or the rings are edge on, even a fine—HUGE, earth-based—telescope won’t work.

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To try to see them with those binos would required them to be tripod mounted and your eyes to be full dark adapted. Even then the rings would probably only appear as bumps on the planets side and only if they are not edge on as Bill said. Most low- mid binos would not have the resolution required to see any detail.
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For a decent view, it will take an 80mm objective lens, a substantial tripod, and a clear night to resolve the rings. There are a couple of "Giant" binos being offered with prices ranging from under $200 to well over $1000.  I bought a short tube 80mm refractor that does a decent job and is considerably cheaper. 
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I have a 280x160 binocular and can't see Saturn anything like your picture here  can only see a white dot, but then again I only paid 120 bucks for a no name brand.  I'm new to this what could be my problem? Thanks
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Maybe it is me. You wrote you have a "280 x 160" binocular.  I am unfamiliar with that designation. I am sure you can see how binoculars are designated, for example, 8 x 42. 
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