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Buddy was wanting to know about a 1965 Colt Gov.? Commercial 1911.

Serial # 299xxxC.

It's nickle plated, I assume. Could it be a stainless model back in '65??

I don't know.

 

What's with the "Commercial" designation? 

 

Anything you guys can tell me about this pistol would be appreciated. 

 

Oh yeah....price is $550.

 

 



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the commercial designation is because the 1911 was a military weapon they wanted a way to tell the difference between a military issued 1911 and a civilian or aka commercial pistol, pre world war II, the serial numbers started with a "C" and in 1950 the "C" was moved to the end of the serial number, the commercial has a high polished look to make it easily recognized from a military issued 1911. prices 1100 exc 800 for v.g. 600 for good 500 for fair 350 for poor

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The year is correct and it is not stainless. Factory nickel was available but this one is looking a little worn, if not aftermarket plated. Are you thinking about getting this gun CT?

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Stainless didn't start until the Series 80's--with the choices out there this gun is over priced as a use gun --could be a collector (what ever that is). It is still possible to find Series 70 with beaver,tail, commander hammers, Durochrome etc, for around $550.
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Thanks, Gents.

 

I just found out it's not nickle plated, but the flash from the photo caused it to look that way.

My bad......I was told incorrectly.

 

Dale:

I was told that the grips may not be original. Do the grips look like right to you for that model?

Thanks for responding. I had hoped you and ranburr would comment.

 

Pyro:

I thought the C was a designation for a non military piece, but wasn't for sure.

Thank you for your help.

 

Tahqua:

No, a buddy in NYC is interested in this side arm and was looking for an intel dump on it. 

He's thinking of getting this piece and sending it off to some 1911 guru (Ed Brown possibly) to get customized.

Thanks Brother.

 

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No the grips are later series 70, the correct should be the "real" diamondback checkering, and judging by the wear , should be well worn, the gun looks like a 555 polish job.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

No the grips are later series 70, the correct should be the "real" diamondback checkering, and judging by the wear , should be well worn, the gun looks like a 555 polish job.

Ditto on the grips, nice call on the 550.........................$400, what do you think?

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pretty close- depends if the barrel lock up was good and the locks in the slide were still sharp or rounded. also if the polish had smeared any lettering. Bad thing is--if it is a polish job, your going have to refinish it, or rust.

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I would expect it to bring more money, but I can not see it that closely.  If it is is in very good condition than it is a collectors item.  These guns are often fittend better than than the old model 70's.  They are on par with the 2nd generation model 70's. I would buy it for the collection and get a new second generation model 70 for custom carry. 

 

Smiths... I now have a simple rule.  I drive to the shop and personally meet everybody.  I bring trinkets or doughnut ect.  We have a long talk about what I want done and what I expect, including: price, turn around and fit and finish.  I have a writen list of what and how I want things done.  I also include a "mission" statement for the gun.  That tells how I will carry the gun and why. 

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It's a little hard to tell from the photo but one other option is that it could have been electroless nickle plated which closely resembles stainless where the colt bright nickle is more the color tone of a mirror.
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You had two choices then Blue or Nickle. If the gun has a brushed nickle finish that did not start to show up until the early eighties.  Could be a dull hard chrome, again that did not start to show until the late seventies.

 

 The gun looks like a thin blue and bad flash.  The picture needs soft side lights and a polarized filter.  The grips look to be rosewood from the seventies or eighties.  If the gun were plated I would expect to see more details at the muzzle as the lighting would be more uniform. If the magaiznes which seem to match the gun were plated then you would not see the two tone color at the base of the magazines from the welding.  It would be one solid color. The fact that the magazines seem to match the gun colorwise also suggest a blue gun. On the slide next to the dust cover you see a change in the tone of the blue.  That seems to suggest that the dust over helped to shield that area from wear. Also look at the pony on the grips, see how washed out that is? If the gun were plated that would not be washed out. 

 

There is a lot of stuff hidden in this picture.  You do not see the roll marks.  Look at the slide stop, they normally come with a sharper edge than that.  They gun could have been reblued, which would also put it in that price range. The gun is not bad for its age.  

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I might be late, but I would buy that for $550 in a second as I would use the frame and slide as the basis for a custom.  A new Caspian frame and slide cost that much and has less eye appeal than the classic Colt I sold a '69 Commercial to a buddy for a lot more than that a few years ago.  John Harrison did a full-house build on the frame and slide.  I shot it before the new owner did.

The roll marks could be redone as I did this to an extensively customized 1976 Series '70 that is my everyday carry.
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