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 Maybe a larger heavier caliber is needed . It took 4 .270's to kill it ! 
 

SEDALIA, Mo. – A hunter bagged a big buck on the second day of firearms season, but the kill caused him a lot of pain. Randy Goodman, 49, said he thought two well-placed shots with his .270-caliber rifle had killed the buck on Nov. 19. Goodman said the deer looked dead to him, but seconds later the nine-point, 240-pound animal came to life.

The buck rose up, knocked Goodman down and attacked him with his antlers in what the veteran hunter called "15 seconds of hell." The deer ran a short distance and went down, and died after Goodman fired --- two more shots.

Soon Goodman started feeling dizzy and noticed his vest was soaked in blood.

So he reached his truck and drove to a hospital, where he received seven staples in his scalp and was treated for a slight concussion and bruises.



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Yeah! What he THOUGHT was two well placed shots. If they truly were well placed, there would only be 1. A .270 will kill any deer you have any business shooting at. And maybe a few you don't?
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Should have been usin' A Squeezer special, not a silly little .270.  Or maybe the buck was wearing Kevlar. 
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what did i say about the .270??? i heard this story on the radio yesterday and just laughed!!
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I'm not a big fan of the .270 BUT, two well placed shots and no deer I ever met would be doing too well!
 
Methinks there is more behind this story.
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well placed to you and me may not be well placed for him, maybe he gut shot it twice
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Do you think the 2 well placed shots were the brown spot on it's hind end (a Texas heart shot)? He could have been so distraught about the size of the deer who knows where he shot him the first 2 times. I would like to have more info on it. Maybe a picture or 2!

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Originally posted by mercenary1947 mercenary1947 wrote:

 Maybe a larger heavier caliber is needed . It took 4 .270's to kill it ! 
 

SEDALIA, Mo. – A hunter bagged a big buck on the second day of firearms season, but the kill caused him a lot of pain. Randy Goodman, 49, said he thought two well-placed shots with his .270-caliber rifle had killed the buck on Nov. 19. Goodman said the deer looked dead to him, but seconds later the nine-point, 240-pound animal came to life.

The buck rose up, knocked Goodman down and attacked him with his antlers in what the veteran hunter called "15 seconds of hell." The deer ran a short distance and went down, and died after Goodman fired --- two more shots.

Soon Goodman started feeling dizzy and noticed his vest was soaked in blood.

So he reached his truck and drove to a hospital, where he received seven staples in his scalp and was treated for a slight concussion and bruises.

................I`ll willing to bet that the 1st shot, let alone the 2nd shot, weren`t well placed to begin with! Like the 270 or not, there isn`t any way imo, using the right bullet, any deer of any size with a well placed shot, will act like this one did!!
 
What bullet was used? More importantly; where was the first shot placed? Did Goodman wait for the right broadside opportunity? For the 1st shot, what angle was the deer in relation to the bullet`s flight? Quartering to? Quartering away?
 
There are a few unanswered questions here!
 
4 shots from a 270??? This guy was either a poor shot, or this deer came very close to wearing a cape!!........Look! Up in the sky....It`s a bird!.... It`s a plane!.....NO! IT`S SUPER DEER!!!.....Roll on Floor Laughing....Rudolph.........Laugh
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you hit them with a .375 and i dont think it would matter, a friend of mine shot a doe with his .450marlin last year it was standing with its but toward him facing away from him and it turned its head towards him and he took a shot like an idiot and hit that deer in the left rear leg and blew that doe in half she crumpled right there, and thats a slow mover, hit it with that .375ruger and imagine worse yet?
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Either way, this story is not exactly passing my smell test!! Something is amiss here!!
 
I`m alot more inclined to think that Goodman was the problem and not the 270! In fact! I`ll bet on it!!
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Take NO chances - 416 Ruger!
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Originally posted by Dogger Dogger wrote:

Take NO chances - 416 Ruger!
.....The perfect weapon for "SUPER DEER!!!...........Tank
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The real story her is that pyro has more ammunition for his anti 270 argument. LOLLaughGet Your Popcorn Ready
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i dont think its a caliber issue, i was being faceceous there, unless he would have had at least a .375 cal im thinking he was in trouble from the second he took his first shot. course it does prove that  the .270 is a piece of crap!
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Ok I got it now pyro!
 
faceceous......... faeces...........270 is a piece of crap
 
I think I'm following your logic now.
 
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your a clever fellar craig! good show old chapCheers
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Sheesh, haven't you guys ever knocked down an animal and then have it get up.  I doubt any hunter can say that.  Most of the time shooting off hand at a possibly moving animal at 100+ yards, it is going to be pretty hard to have a perfect guaranteed hit.  I have had that happen a few times, thought I made a good kill shot and when I got closer the animal got up and took off again.

My dad knocked down a deer a couple years back with one shot.  He hit it a little high in the shoulder, it went straight down.  We walked up on it and just as we got to it it jumped up and ran off like it had never been hit.  Never stopped running.  We figured he must have hit it close enough to the spin that it stunned the deer for a couple minutes but done no serious damage. 

I think the moral of the story is to keep your weapon ready when a approaching a downed animal.  Cause that could happen to anyone real quick. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Sheesh, haven't you guys ever knocked down an animal and then have it get up.  I doubt any hunter can say that.  Most of the time shooting off hand at a possibly moving animal at 100+ yards, it is going to be pretty hard to have a perfect guaranteed hit.  I have had that happen a few times, thought I made a good kill shot and when I got closer the animal got up and took off again.

My dad knocked down a deer a couple years back with one shot.  He hit it a little high in the shoulder, it went straight down.  We walked up on it and just as we got to it it jumped up and ran off like it had never been hit.  Never stopped running.  We figured he must have hit it close enough to the spin that it stunned the deer for a couple minutes but done no serious damage. 

I think the moral of the story is to keep your weapon ready when a approaching a downed animal.  Cause that could happen to anyone real quick. 


Excellent advise!  Thunbs Up
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Sheesh, haven't you guys ever knocked down an animal and then have it get up.  I doubt any hunter can say that.  Most of the time shooting off hand at a possibly moving animal at 100+ yards, it is going to be pretty hard to have a perfect guaranteed hit.  I have had that happen a few times, thought I made a good kill shot and when I got closer the animal got up and took off again.

My dad knocked down a deer a couple years back with one shot.  He hit it a little high in the shoulder, it went straight down.  We walked up on it and just as we got to it it jumped up and ran off like it had never been hit.  Never stopped running.  We figured he must have hit it close enough to the spin that it stunned the deer for a couple minutes but done no serious damage. 

I think the moral of the story is to keep your weapon ready when a approaching a downed animal.  Cause that could happen to anyone real quick. 
the only time ive ever had that happen was a bow kill and that was because i didnt do my part. with a rifle i shoot they run a ways they fall over, if you wait a while they will lay down and die, a lot of people make that mistake, if you leave em be for a while the adreneline subsides in a hurry and they die quicker, if you chase them they will run forever it seems. notice them boys on tv when they hunt bears and such when they think its even a slight bit iffy they wait till after dark to go looking for it.
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My deer didn't get back up after a dose of 350 Rem Mag !
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Originally posted by bricat bricat wrote:

My deer didn't get back up after a dose of 350 Rem Mag !



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