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I looked carefully at the Cabelas Euro 1042 yesterday and was pretty impressed.  There was a slight mis focus/softness at the very edge but unless you looked/tested for it, I do not think it is at all noticable in normal usage.  I like to test edge clarity/focus by focusing the bino for extreme edge performance and then see how out of focus the center is.
 
My question is how does this binocular compare optically to the present ZEN-Ray ED  or equiv promaster/hawke. Hopefully some of you guys have seen both. I already know I do not like the diopter adjustment on the Euros and would prefer is on the eyepiece like the Zen-ray. 
From what I have read here, any comparisons of the zen-ray to the Meopta would also be appreciated. 
 
I also looked at the 1042 and 842 Alaskan guide binos (~$600) and found the 8x to be more critical on eye alignment than the 1042 which really suprised me as it was easily noticeable. I did not understand this as the exit pupil is larger on the 8x.  Do either the zen-ray 8x or 10x binos have any problem with eye alighnment?
 
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Sometimes the most screwed up binoculars you can find are store display models.  So next time you find something like the Alaskan Guide, insist on looking at another one.  Simply pointing it out to the clerk, who from what I have seen may not themselves know how to focus a binocular, may not do any good.

Now, I have had 8x43 ZEN and Promaster vs 8x42 Meopta Meostar comparisons.  There are two things about the Meopta.  One is the diopter, I wish it was different too.  Second i sthat I do not like the yellow color bias of the Meopta.  The images are very close together, both are good enough to give you an adequate look at anything a 10x binocular will show.
 
It becomes your call as to what is most important to you.  There is the newness and the chinese origin of the ZEN ED binocular and its extreme value/price ratio, or do you want a European glass from a long time company like Cabels's for warranty.  It is Cabela's warranty, not Meopta's.
 
I have the ZEN ED and Promaster ELX ED and am not interested in finding something else at present.  YMMV.
 
 


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I am pretty impressed with the 10x43 Zen Ray ED.  I am not sure how much the improvement will be gained in the 2nd Generation which I heard wont be out till August.  The Zen Ray is a open bridge like the Swaro EL and Vortex Razor.
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I have been using the Cabela's Euro (made by Meopta and exactly the same as Meopta's binoculars) for severasl years now--and not just one but several. They are very fine optically and VERY tough.

I have seen several Zen Rays (and other optics from the same factory in China). They are also very fine, in my opinion at least in the same league as the CabelaEuros/Meoptas.

The question, then, is are the ZR's as tough? I have seen one instance and heard of one other that brings up that question.

I have beaten the snot out of Meaopta binoculars for several years now with no problems. And I mean BEATEN.

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John, would you explain a little further your failure with the Zen, and were they handled under warranty?
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SChunter,
 
I'm going to respond to this one.  That is because the binoculars with the problem were actually mine.  John can add what he sees fit.  We had an exchange of posts here on a thread, where I offered to send him mine for his examination.  He accepted and I sent them to him.  He PM'd me some days later and said he wasn't real impressed with what he saw.  Well to be honest I wondered what he had been smoking Smile!Well when he sent them back, sure enough there was something wrong in collimation in the left barrel.  So, something had happened in transit between us.  Who knows what?  I have had enough experience with baggage and freight handling monkeys to know some of them can break anything.  I tend to wonder how more things from the spectrum of shipped freight are not broken.  However to be fair, John said there appeared to be nothing wrong with the way they had been packed and there further appeared that nothing had happened to the box in shipping.  So maybe it was just one of those things, or maybe it was a bad binocular.  Whatever it is, it is a sample of one and there is really no telling what happened to them, because neither John or I know, so we can't say what happened.
 
Zen Ray's response was quick and immediate.  I got a new binocular on next day priorty next day shipment (I'm about 150 mi from ZR).  They asked me to send mine back at my conveience.  I also know they sent a brand new binocular to John to replace his experience.  So that was two replacement binoculars for one bum glass.
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Thanks for the reply, Steve.  That seems totally above board what ZR did for you.
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And I was quite impressed with the optis of the 2nd ZR I got for evaluation. We'll see how it holds up under hunting conditions.
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