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    Posted: December/15/2004 at 21:15
     I need a pair of hunting binoculars and I believe the Legends are all I am going to need. I just cant decide which type to get. The porros are about half the price of the roofs and weight and size are simialar in the 8x42 models. If I decide to go 10x42 I will definately go with the roofs. I am just curious which type of binocular has better brightness and resoloution the roofs or the porros? Also for general treestand hunting and field edge scoping which power would be better 8 or 10 power?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/16/2004 at 12:35

I have not compared Legend roofs and porros side by side.  Typically porros have better brightness and resolution as they are easier to make and align.  Roofs will have better weather-proofing though and smaller form-factor.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris Farris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/16/2004 at 13:47

Just about everything is better with the porro (except size and cosmetics).

 

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As I've been saying for a while now: for the best optical performance for the money look at quality porros.  I've been spending some time talking to pretty experienced birders and they say that for the ultimate field of view, color rendition, field flatness and resolution even the most expensive roofs have a bit of a hard time competing with the best porros.  On top of that perception depth is quite a bit better with porros as well.  The downside is that porros are MUCH harder to seal and high end porros are pretty bulky.

 

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Koskin,

 

I am somewhat unfamiliar with porros.  WHo and what are the high end porro makers?

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The best known are probably Nikon Superior E series.  Apparently their 10x42 version is absolutley spectacular.  Personally, I've spent a little time with an 8x32 version and they are superb.

 

For the best bang for the back (and view nearly equal to the Nikons) finda pair of 8.5x44 Swift Audubon binos with Extra-Low Dispersion glass.  They have unbelievable resolution and color.

 

I've heard good things about Swarowski 10x40 porros as well. 

 

These are the most prominent I think.  Fujinon and optolyth I think make very good porros as well.

 

The porros that I own and love dearly are IOR 7x40.  I understand that IOR 10x50 porros are absolutely incredible as well.

 

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Thanks for the info Koshkin.   I need to check em out.
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Samhill79,

 

I've also heard good things about Fujinon Polaris binoculars (no personal experience though).

 

Oberwerk and Takahashi binos are popular among those who like to look at the sky at night.

 

For low light viewing, I think Zeiss ClassiC 7x50 porros are still top notch as are Steiner Night Hunter 7x50 or 8x56 (given a choice I do not buy German products so I do not own any of these).

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samhill79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/17/2004 at 13:53
I knew the Steiner night hunters were good but I wondered if someone made better porros.  I really dont have anything against them...just never really looked into them.  I will try to make that one more excuss to visit the sporting goods store .  Thanks again.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/17/2004 at 22:16
I would definitly go with the 8x42 roof prism Legends for your intended purposes. koshkin is right in what he stated. I recently purchased a pair of 8x56 Steiner NightHunter's that would take you breath away with how bright they are. They are big, but if a brighter bino than these babies are out there, I have not seen them!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DAVE44 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/17/2004 at 22:55
     Do you believe the roof prisms are better optically or do you just like them because they are a more comfortable binocular to handle and use?
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The roof prisms are definately not superior optically. It's like Chris said, the porros are superior in everything except size and cosmetics.

Other manufacturers of good porros include

Nikon Action Extreme

Pentax PCF II and III series

Bausch and Lomb Discoverer

 

I always have believed the 8X models give better overall performance than the 10Xs (see related thread  on magnification for my reasoning)

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question, why does a prono cost half the amount of a roof prism (bushnell legends), and yet outperfom it optically in every way?

If both are 100% waterproof then what is the reason for such a price difference?


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A porro is easier to manufacture.  I would call the Legend Porros water resistant.  The roofs are much more durable and truly waterproof.

 

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