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Which is the better bino for hunting in 10x42. They both are bushnell and both have RAINGAURD but are the Discoverer binos worth the extra money? Are they that much better optically? HMMMMMMM
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In the porro's, the Bausch & Lomb Discoverer's were definitely worth the extra money over the Legends in my experience.  That's not to say that the Legends are a bad binocular, I own two pair of the porro version.  I could always tell, though, when I'd borrow a pair of the Discoverer porros that they were brighter and had better side to side sharpness.  The twist up eye cups were better on the Discoverer's than the pop ups on the Legends.

 

Bushnell discontinued the porro Discoverer's this year when they lost rights to the Bausch & Lomb line.

 

In the roofs, I don't have near the experience that I do with the porro Discoverers.  The Legends are still a great value as roofs go--I've never heard that many great things about the roof Discoverers...

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Bushnell "lost the rights" to the B & L line????  I think that you've got a bad source for your information as Bushnell owns B&L outright.

 

The company has simply made a marketing decision to manufacture all sporting optics under the Bushnell name, while retaining the B&L name for their medical products (contact lenses, microscopes, etc.)

 

Almost all of the B&L sporting optics (elite riflescopes, spotting scopes, and binoculars, discoverer spotting scopes and binoculars, custom compact binoculars, etc. have all been re-branded and are still being sold under the name Bushnell. The only exception I am aware of is the B&L Discoverer Porro Prism Binocular, which has been discontinued (though Cabelas still has a few left for sale.) Who knows, maybe these too will come about again with the name Bushnell stamped on them.

 

 

 

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Bushnell does not own Bausch & Lomb.  A few years ago Bushnell bought Bausch & Lomb sport optics division and the right to use Bausch & Lomb name for a few years (presumably for a smoother transition of high end lines to Bushnell name).  Other Bausch & Lomb operations (like the factory that makes my contact lenses for example) are not owned by Bushnell to the best of my knowledge. 

 

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thanks, ilya.  B & L insisted that Bushnell honor the length of term of the use of the brand name.   allegedly, Bushnell tried to purchase additional time to use the brand and were turned down...

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Getting back to my question, are the Discoverers worth an extra $100 or more over the legends. Also, do the Discoverers have a hard magnesium body or are they rubber armored as well? How would they compare to the Leupold Pinnacles in performance aside from the Raingaurd? I am wanting to compare the 10 power roof models. Thanks
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I've never handled the Discoverers in roof format--I haven't seen a pair on any of my birdwalks with my Audubon group nor have I come across them either at the range or on a hunt.

I've seen a dozen or more pairs of Leupold Pinnacle's in 10x.

Most of the people that I've seen carrying Pinnacles are very particular about their optics.

I love the view through the newer Pinnacles--maybe not as much as I love the view through my Kahles, but, color rendition is good, they're bright, they've got a good "feel" to them, and the eye cups are comfortable and consistent..

When the Pinnacle line first came out a few years ago, the couple pair that I saw both had some problems with color fringing and funky eye cups.  None of the newer ones (since late 2003) seem to have any problems in either category.

Since most of the folks I've seen carrying Pinnacles do a ton of research before committing to optics purchases and not a one of them own Discoverer "roofs" (some of them own the porros), I'd have to say either Bushnell has a distribution problem in my area or there's a pretty good chance that they don't measure up to the Pinnacles.

Having said that, I've never used one of the Discoverer roofs myself to make the determination but I can say that without a doubt, if I were left only a pair of 10 power Pinnacles to use on a hunt I'd be a very content hunter.

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For about the same price you can get the Browning 10x42s, which I seem to like better than the 10x42 Discoverers.  Optically they're pretty similar in overall view, but I saw slightly more CA with the B&L (Bushnell) Discoverers.  Besides, the Discoverers have a pretty cheesy diopter adjustment, where the Browning is much less likely to get accidentally moved.

I would opt for either of these over the Pinnacles, but the ones I tried were the 12x50, which are extremely compact compared to my 12x50 Trinovids, but had the "looking through a tube" effect and a field of view which appeared much smaller.
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