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HI All,

This is my first post here.For the past 45 years (not young anymore-smile),I've

owned a Bausch & Lomb Balvar 8 ,2.5x8 scope, which is installed on a Remington

Model 700 target/varmint rifle which has served me well over the years.But now I

need something much stronger.I'm buying a Bushnell 8-32x40mm Elite scope.

What do you all think? Also,what I want to know is this,will the rings off my

present scope fit on the new one ?The Balvar 8 is 12'' long,1'' tube with a

clearance of about 3 quarters of an inch.Any help with this would be

greatly appreciated.Thanks.

 

JaJoa

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I would strongly discourage something with that high of a magnification.

 

For my varminter I bought a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40.  I am not sure if I ever dialed it up past 16x or so.  High magnification does not mean that you will actually see better.  Minor tremors, mirage, minimal depth of field all wreak havoc on picture quality.

 

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I have both the 6-24 and 8-32 Elite 4200. Both are great. If you are from Canada the best price I have seen is $499 for the 6-24 at LeBaron's. For that price you actually get the mil-dot, which I would reccommend. Usually the mil-dot is more, but not at LeBaron. The 8-32 is around $90 more there, $585 I believe. I would just go with the 6-24 mil-dot. Great scopes for the money. The 8-32 may be slightly darker on 32x, but not much at all. It is up to you, but I would save the money and go with the 6-24. Best bang for the optics buck that I have personally used. Weaver is good, but not as clear in the upper magnifications.

 

Oh yes...about the rings...you will need a medium height ring...the Elite is a 40mm objective....check and see what your Balvar is...if it is 40mm then you are in business. If it is a 32mm and there is not much room between the scope bell and the barrel as it is, then you will likely need higher rings. But .75in. is quite a bit even if it is a 32mm. You will likely get away with the rings you have.

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Thanks Ilya,

This sounds like good advice.I wanted the 8-34x40,because at at almost 70

my eyes are not what they used to be.Living on a farm,I have ground hog

problems,that dig holes in my fields,and the little buggers are laughing at

me, since with my present scope, 125 yards is about the best I can get

them on a regular basis.Many of the shots I need to take are in the range

of 200 to 300 yards.This is why I need a scope, where I can clearly see

them.With my .244 Remington I have the power to do this.I load my own

ammo precisely to be able to do this.Thanks again for your prompt

advice

Jacques. 

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Thanks CJN1,

Great tips.As you can see in my post to Ilya above,I need a scope that will let

me see the target clearly in those ranges.I measured my Balvar objective and it's

40mm.I have cross hairs on my scope, and it seemed to be ok for varmint and

target shooting.What would be the advantage of Mil-Dot?Does the 6-24x40

Elite 4200 not have Multi x reticles,and if so would be adjustable?I live near

Ottawa,Canada and we have a Lebaron sports store,.where I got the same

price you mentioned.Looks like I'll be buying a 6-24X40 Elite,since I gather

it will meet my needs.Thanks again.

 Jacques 

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Hey Jacques,

 

The 6-24 has both Mulit-x and mil-dot. Mil-dot helps when the distance can vary for the desired target (like varmint hunting). Takes the guess work out of hold over for distances greater then the scope is sited for. Site for 100 yards at cross hair, then dot below is 200 yards, next dot below that is 300 yards, etc. They are nice to have. Also, in a strong cross-wind the you can use the horizontal dots to compensate for the wind. It is a tool for those who take time to study them.

 

Get the 6-24 or the 8-32. Either is great. Both have adjustable power, so if you like 24x better great, but if on occasion you want 32x, then you have it. Gives you more options.

 

Note: As you can read below, mil-dots will certianly not always work out to each dot being 100 yards. It has to do with magnigfication, dot size, velocicity, BC, wind, distance, etc.,  to name a few variables. The point is it is a tool for those who want to take time with their gun. Ask the military. As far as magnification goes...there are a whole multitude of Field Target shooter who use 30x plus magnification for distances from 10-55 yards while shooting adult air guns. What magnification is proper is a personal decision. These are not fixed power scopes we are taking about. LeBaron has the 6-24 mil-dot listed at the cheapest price, the 6-24 multi-x next, then the 8-32 multi-x being the most expensive. Good choice on the 4200 line, and get the magnification you want. The scopes will look the same with the 8-32x being around 1.50in. longer.

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I've got the Mil-Dot version, but they are not quite that straightforward to use.

 

Spacing between the dots is 3.6" at 100 yards at a 12x magnification (if memory serves me right).  At different magnification the spacing is different and it is unlikely to correspond to the trajectory of your cartridge exactly.  In order to use the Mil-Dots for holdover you have to spend some time figuring out exactly which dot correspond to which distance and at which magnification.  If all you need to do is shoot out to 300yards with 6mm Remington, the reticle makes no difference whatsoever.  You can just sight in 1.5"-2" high at 100 yards and not need any significant holdover out to 300 yards even on targets as small as varmints.  Basically, you can get whichever version you can find at a better price.

 

As for 32x, I can't think of any situation outside of benchrest shooting where you may need 32x.

 

ILya

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CJN1

Thanks again for all that extra info.I'm not familiar with lots of that jargon,but

I'm certainly willing to learn.Where can I get descriptive information about all

this? ie:pictures,how to's..etc.Both your help and Ilyas is greatly appreciated.

 

Jacques

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JaJoa, I do not think the jargon is really summarized anywhere, although you can pick up a lot by browsing and asking questions on this website.  From CJN1's post above it appears that at your nearby store 6-24x40 with MilDot is the cheapest, so go with that one.  You'll be amazed with how far optics have come since you bought your scope.  Do not worry about any extra dots or whanot in the reticle until you get a bit more comfortable with the scope.  Just use the center crosshair for aiming the way you do with your curent scope.  A good test for you would be to set your old scope and your new scope to the same magnification and see how much clearer the new scope is.

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Ilya,

Again I appreciate the information you are providing,and I will make good use of such.

As you suggest I will not hesitate to ask question on this website.I'm 99 percent sure

I will buy the Bushnell 6-24X40 Elite 4200 as it seems ideal to shoot groundhogs at

200 or 300 yards.However, I wonder if ,when I'm shooting at targets,at those distances,

whether the 8-32x40 would be better at spotting bullet holes in the target (much like

a spotting scope),this might save having to buy a spotting scope? I don't do a lot of target

shooting,but I do for sighting and testing new loads.Also, the 8-32x40 comes with an

''Objective for sunshade'' this is useful I guess! What are your thoughts on all this?

Jacques

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6-24x40 also comes with the sunshade.  As for bullet holes, I can see 22cal bullet holes at 100 yards with a 10x scope.  I think 24x is plenty enough.

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Ilya,

 

I think I have all the info I need to make my purchase now.I will be back later

 

with my thoughts about the usefulness of the new scope.Thanks again for

 

all your help.

 

Jacques

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Hi all,I'm back,

I finally bought the Bushnell Elite 4200,8-32x40 scope,and so far I'm impressed.

As it turned out the base and rings of my present scope (Balvar 8, 2.5x8x) could

not accomodate the new scope.I bought and installed Leupold standard 2 part

base and standard medium (.770) rings.I managed to center my shots on

target at 100 yards after adjusting the large screws on the rear base.At this

distance I was 9'' low.As an example,my question is this: .25'' MOA

corresonds to .25'' (UP) at 100 yards, I gather I would need to move the

elevation dial 36 clicks to attain dead center! then at 200 yards raise it by,

say 3 inches (another 12 clicks)? Does this scope have enough clicks to

this?Now the dealer confirms, that this scope has a one eights MOA,

(sorry I don't know how to write this in fractions with my present keyboard)!

Now I'm really confused.The gradation little lines on the elevation knob are

one sixteenth of an inch, and about seven eights of an inch between the longer

vertical lines.Where do we get one eights of an inch MOA out of this?

I would greatly appreciate some expert advice on this.Thanks

 

JJ 

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