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    Posted: May/18/2007 at 08:35

Iíve been shopping around for a new scope to mount on a T3 Stainless Varmint 22-250 and was lucky enough to stumble across the OT. Over the last couple of nights Iíve read through almost all the posts regarding varmint and tactical scopes, concluding that a Bushnell 4200 Elite Tactical 6-24X50mm will suit my needs and budget.

 

I spotlight foxes in low light/moon conditions at a range of 250 to 300 meters using a Tasco world class 4-16X50mm (opti-loc mounts/rings) and have been very successful in significantly dwindling the fox population on 126,000 acres of property. However, for some undetermined reason, the distance at which foxes usually stop to look at the spotty has steadily increased and more often than not, is now beyond my one shot kill range. I usually only get one 5 to 20 second window of opportunity to kill the critter before it runs off.

 

Iíve ordered the Bushnell 4200 E T from a US supplier hoping to extend my killing range. It will take approximately three weeks to get to my door in Australia and I need some advice on setup before it arrives.

 

Chris Farrisí wrote a good post on determining the ring height and I need to know the thickness of the lens cover that comes with the 4200 E T  O.D 50mm, can anyone advise? Should I want flip covers, which ones will fit the 4200 E T, please include thickness?

 

Admittedly I have N.F.I when it comes to mounts (rings) and bases. Should I fit the Tikka picatinny rail, why or why not? What would be the best scope/mounts config if I used opti-loc mounts again? Any advice on scope / mounts (rings) configurations would be greatly appreciated.

 

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I have the same gun in a .270 with that same scope.  I used Warne QD rings (have a few Tikkas, all with QD so I can swap if I want.)

 

I have the high rings and, with Butler Creeks, the front just clears the barrel - not by much.

 

I recommend you use the installed based (sicne it is there, you arlready paid for it, and I've never known anyone to have an issue with the rail not being true) and high rings.  And, understand, at 24X at night, it'll be like looking through murky water.  24X with a 50mm bell means not nearly as much light as your eye wants.  For the money, the scope is great.  But I wouldn't plan on setting it to 24X and shooting allot, even at 300 yards.

 

(If you buy Warne rings, get Tikka/Sako high.  If you get medium, you'll be shipping them back. Others here use Talleys or others, I ahve only used Warne.)  And for the money, there isn't a better rifle than the one you own.  Good choice in gun and scope.

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you have to remember also that at 300 yards a coyote or fox or whatever your shooting will be alot bigger than that piece of paper and 12x should be more than enough. I have this scope and while the 24x is very very clear during the day, I dont know what it would look like on a spotlighted object 300 yards away at night.
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Rancid, I checked out the Warne QD rings and definitely prefer them over the Talleys however Iím tempted to spend the extra and go High or Ultra high Max-50 Badgers. Based on your experience Iím fairly disappointed with the expected night performance at 24X and am hoping that I can get at least reasonable clarity over 16X?

 

Gconnoyer, the Australian Red Fox would be a little larger in size than the average American pet cat, ďI take my hat off to yaĒ if you can drop a fox first shot at 380 to 400 yards at 12X, keeping in-mind that all you can see are itís glowing red eyes (obviously the effect of the spotlight). Am however pleased to here that 24X in the day is very very clear..

 

Thanks for your comments fellas.

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fox hunter here is a picture through mine at 24x. perfectly clear day and it was nice and cool so there wasnt a mirage(the day I took the picture). I went shooting the other day and did some 500yard testing and it was around 85* with no clouds so the mirage was killing me. but at night no worrying about the mirage.

 

I might try tonight to get a picture of my dog through it at 400yards with him spotlighted

 



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Fox Hunter, the 24x is going to be clear whether it is day or night.  It might not work well at night because of your eye not because of the scope.  In low light your exit pupil dilates and in order to get the best performance, you have to makes sure that the exit pupil of the scope is not much smaller than the pupil of your eye.  The exit pupil of the 6-24x50 at 24x is 2.08mm in diameter.  At 12x it is twice bigger at 4.17mm.

When you get your scope, set up a distant target and spend a few minutes looking at it at different magnifications and both in good light and in low light.  You will find that with a steady rest you may very well see best at 24x or close to it in good light, but at a significantly lower magnification in low light.

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Originally posted by Fox Hunter Fox Hunter wrote:

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Chris Farrisí wrote a good post on determining the ring height and I need to know the thickness of the lens cover that comes with the 4200 E T  O.D 50mm, can anyone advise? Should I want flip covers, which ones will fit the 4200 E T, please include thickness?

 

Admittedly I have N.F.I when it comes to mounts (rings) and bases. Should I fit the Tikka picatinny rail, why or why not? What would be the best scope/mounts config if I used opti-loc mounts again? Any advice on scope / mounts (rings) configurations would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Hunter



I have the Bushnell 6-24x50 on my HMR, and suspect the front Butler Creek flip cover is size 44. I can only 'suspect' as I have the scope mounted too low to allow me to use a cover. Before installing the scope I tried a size 43, and it was just a touch too small.
FWIW, the rear cover is Ocular size 13.
Regarding Tikka T3 mounts, I use a set of Warne 2 piece bases. These give a Weaver (picatinny) interface so that any Weaver mount can be used. I like Leupold QRW / PRW as I find vertically spilt rings (such as Warne or Talley) a pain to set up.
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