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Does Bushnell make the 4200 3-9x40 in silver?  I am getting a Sako 75 Grey Wolf and would like the scope to be silver.  I think the 4200 is a good choice but I really don't want a black scope on it.

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no, they do however make the 2.5 x10 in silver
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

no, they do however make the 2.5 x10 in silver


Saw that, it's $100 more for magnification I don't need.  Then I can spend another $50 and get a silver Conquest off the SampleList.  That may be the route I take.
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even better no sense on wasting money on something you do not want or need, but as far as the extra $$ silver scopes are always more expensive than black ones, and 3x9 sell more scopes across the board than 2.5x10's so thats another reason for the price hike! zeiss makes great glass!
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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/6528/nikon_3-9x40_monarc h_ucc_riflescope.htm

 



Thanks, how does this scope rate compared to the 4200 and Conquest?
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The 4200 is the best choice{construction/glass),but if you insist on silver this is the second best choice

Price vs Quality. I would hold of on the Conquest for right now,there ae alot of new scopes comming in

2007 that will make you regret that decision IMO.



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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

The 4200 is the best choice{construction/glass),but if you insist on silver this is the second best choice

Price vs Quality.



I think it may look weird with a black scope.  I think synthetic black stocks and stainless guns look ok with black scopes but the Grey Wolf is well, grey.  I'm vain... :)
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For your needs and budget the Monarch will be your best choice as of right now IMO.
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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

...there ae alot of new scopes comming in

2007 that will make you regret that decision IMO.



Is there a thread regarding these coming attractions or someplace you can point me to?  I don't have to get a scope for this gun right this second, if there is something worth waiting for that's no big deal.
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This info is all over recent posts and there is alot of it type in Kahles KX in the search engine and look at the new products 2007 in the private message center and you should be off to a good start.

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

This info is all over recent posts and there is alot of it type in Kahles KX in the search engine and look at the new products 2007 in the private message center and you should be off to a good start.



Great, thanks for your time and info.
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No problem,keep us posted,let us know what you decide on and welcome to the OT.
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you might take a look at the conquest before you buy,  if you are vain and want it to really match,  the conquest is an odd color of silver.  by the way,  i'm not knocking you for being vain,  i'm that way myself,  that's how i know the conquest if different.
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I would avoid the Bushnell Elite 4200. There have been several reports by several Bushnell dealers in my area of internal fogging.  We've had lots of rain/snow here in the last few months, and dealers have gotten a few back from their customers.

Now, I mentioned this here earlier and was pretty much told I was a liar by several members of this board. They also said that the Bushnell dealers were lying.  However, yesterday I went to a shop that is a dyed-in-the-wool Bushnell dealer and I told them they were lying because several internet experts said they hadn't heard of this issue so it must not be true.  The sales associate went in the back room and came back with two 4200s, one a silver 2.5-10x40mm and the other a matte 2.5-10x50mm.  He handed them to me and said, "See for yourself."  He was right...and I saw it with my own two eyes.

He added that these weren't the first he had received and he also made a point of asking me to find out how many of the internet experts had been out hunting in Western Washington every day while 30" of rain fell.

Now, I realize that hardly anyone will ever ask their equipment to go through what these hardcore hunters asked theirs to endure this season.  Heck, this is probably the only part of the country where that is even possible.  But, if I'm going to spend my hard-earned dollars on a hunting scope, I'm going with a brand that the local dealers had no problems with.  For me, it will be Zeiss, Nikon, Burris or Weaver (Grand Slam).
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seattlesetters, it's always best to use the brand that gives you the most confidence. If I was one of the "internet experts" you are referring to, then I offer my apology for sounding rude or doubting. I must say that your information is not the norm that I hear from users of the 4200 Elites. I have hunted in Sask where the temp's were as low as -26F (that was the high actually for the day) with a 2.5-10 Elite 4000 and never had a problem even when the gun was brought inside every day we were there. One lad used a Nikon 3-9 (can't remember which model) that fogged after that particular jaunt and is now using a Conquest with no problems so far. I realize this is not the same as the conditions you experience but I offer them as a extreme hunting condition that these scopes have endured not to mention the rigors of airline travel.
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

seattlesetters, it's always best to use the brand that gives you the most confidence. If I was one of the "internet experts" you are referring to, then I offer my apology for sounding rude or doubting. I must say that your information is not the norm that I hear from users of the 4200 Elites. I have hunted in Sask where the temp's were as low as -26F (that was the high actually for the day) with a 2.5-10 Elite 4000 and never had a problem even when the gun was brought inside every day we were there. One lad used a Nikon 3-9 (can't remember which model) that fogged after that particular jaunt and is now using a Conquest with no problems so far. I realize this is not the same as the conditions you experience but I offer them as a extreme hunting condition that these scopes have endured not to mention the rigors of airline travel.


Roy - Not pointing a finger at anyone.  I respect your opinions greatly, and would hope that I could turn to you (and others) if I needed help at any time.  I'm just wanting an individual looking for information to know that the rumors are indeed true...I saw it with my own eyes. 

Last time I mentioned it, several here treated it as if it were hogwash, even though a half-dozen Bushnell dealers in my area had corroborated the evidence. 

IMHO, reputations are built in the real world...like hunting during 30" of rainfall or during temperatures of -26F, like you've experienced. 

Punching paper under a roof or fair weather hunting notwithstanding, the 4200s have indeed failed the extreme conditions test. As a result, anybody who calls themselves an expert and is willing to put down another's real-world experience should have absolutely no qualms about questioning the "value" offered by the Bushnell Elite 4200.

I appreciate your sentiments...thanks for responding!
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

seattlesetters, it's always best to use the brand that gives you the most confidence. If I was one of the "internet experts" you are referring to, then I offer my apology for sounding rude or doubting. I must say that your information is not the norm that I hear from users of the 4200 Elites. I have hunted in Sask where the temp's were as low as -26F (that was the high actually for the day) with a 2.5-10 Elite 4000 and never had a problem even when the gun was brought inside every day we were there. One lad used a Nikon 3-9 (can't remember which model) that fogged after that particular jaunt and is now using a Conquest with no problems so far. I realize this is not the same as the conditions you experience but I offer them as a extreme hunting condition that these scopes have endured not to mention the rigors of airline travel.

 

unless he had a nikon prostaff which i dont own i have been in colder conditions than -26 with nikon buckmasters and i my scope didnt miss a beat!!! i have hunted from 10000 ft to 1400 ft and the nikon lineup has yet to fail me!!

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