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What are your thoughts on mounting the above scope on a 300 Win Mag? I'm a stock-crawler and was wondering if this scope would provide ample eye relief on a magnum rifle.

They seem like great scopes, I even have one enroute as I type, but I'm a bit concerned about the short eye relief.
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You should be good to go.  I have a few bushnell elite scopes and I really like them.  I have a 3-9X40 elite 3200 on my 30-06 and I have never had an issue with eye relief.  I'm currently waiting on a 5-15 elite from swfa to mount on my .221 fireball.  But not to get off detail the 30-06 kick is similar to that of a 300win mag, and as I stated I have never had an issue with scope relief.  If you decide you dont like it, pm me I might need to buy another. take care.
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I too have several of the elite scopes, and have had them on rifle's like a 45-70 and a 300wsm, with no eye relief problems at all.
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A lot depends on the weight of the rifle, stock shape, and how good your form is. Stock crawling on a lightweight rifle in 300wm will eventually get you smacked. For that application I would prefer a 4" eye relief. For a standard weight rifle shouldered well the 4200 should be fine.
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ive got that exact scope on my .300wby right now, no problem, it can be on the bench when you use a lead sled though. i also had that scope on my .375H&H, then i got a 2x7 viper. that 4200 is tough as nails.
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I'm running a 4200 on my 300 WM and ER is not a problem.
 
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Thanks all, good to know.
 
Roy, that's a beautiful rifle. My 700 has a gray/black laminate wood w/stainless receiver and bbl.
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Originally posted by Stud Duck Stud Duck wrote:

What are your thoughts on mounting the above scope on a 300 Win Mag? I'm a stock-crawler and was wondering if this scope would provide ample eye relief on a magnum rifle.

They seem like great scopes, I even have one enroute as I type, but I'm a bit concerned about the short eye relief.

I owned one, on a lightweight mountain rifle in .35 Whelen.

I got "kissed" on 2 shots, & cut on the third.  Both rifle & scope went down the road, separately.

Excellent glass for the money, but I prefer Conquests.

Just my $.02, and sample size of 1.

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You'll be fine ..I have a 4200 3x9 on a 338 Win Mag Vanguard and no worries ,,, I also have 4200's mounted on a 300 Browning Ultramag and two 300 Wby's ... never a problem

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Originally posted by shockey shockey wrote:

But not to get off detail the 30-06 kick is similar to that of a 300win mag

Is the 300 Win Mag REALLY that drastically less recoiling than a 300WSM?!

I've never personally shot a Win Mag, but I can say that shooting the same brand ammo, same grain (150 Remington PSP Core Lokt) recoil difference in my 30-06 and my 300WSM is HUGE!

If that X-Bolt didn't have that nice, soft recoil pad on it straight from the factory, that 300WSM would be pretty unpleasant to sight in at the range.  The 30-06, not so much.  Heck, it even kicks less than my Stevens 200 270 Win with Remington PSP Core Lokt 130gr ammo.  Course that rifle only weighs a couple pounds.

With that being said, if you keep a good hold on your rifle when you shoot, you should be fine with a 4200 on a 300 Win Mag.


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Originally posted by EchoWhiskeyOne EchoWhiskeyOne wrote:

Originally posted by shockey shockey wrote:

But not to get off detail the 30-06 kick is similar to that of a 300win mag

Is the 300 Win Mag REALLY that drastically less recoiling than a 300WSM?!

I've never personally shot a Win Mag, but I can say that shooting the same brand ammo, same grain (150 Remington PSP Core Lokt) recoil difference in my 30-06 and my 300WSM is HUGE!

If that X-Bolt didn't have that nice, soft recoil pad on it straight from the factory, that 300WSM would be pretty unpleasant to sight in at the range.  The 30-06, not so much.  Heck, it even kicks less than my Stevens 200 270 Win with Remington PSP Core Lokt 130gr ammo.  Course that rifle only weighs a couple pounds.

With that being said, if you keep a good hold on your rifle when you shoot, you should be fine with a 4200 on a 300 Win Mag.




I have owned various 30-06, 300 win mag, and owned one 300wsm.  And honestly I didn't think the recoil difference was tremendously different.  It could be due to the "rifle" and its respective weight, but I also shoot a .458 win and that I would say does have a noticeable difference in kick.  Maybe even more important to the recoil issue is bullet weight and load being used.  I almost always shoot either 165 gr BT or 180 SP between the different 30 cal rifles, recoil is similar with load and bullet type.  But as I said it could be the rifle etc, etc. 
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Two friends and I put at least a half dozen rounds each through my Savage .338 today with a 4200 3-9x40 on it, and none of us got hit.  I have it mounted about as far forward as you can and still get a full sight picture.  I did have it a little further back and it barely got me on the first shot.  After moving it forward just that little bit, I don't even have to think about it hitting me.  For the record, this is a 9.25 lb rifle with a Limbsaver pad on it.
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Originally posted by EchoWhiskeyOne EchoWhiskeyOne wrote:

Originally posted by shockey shockey wrote:

But not to get off detail the 30-06 kick is similar to that of a 300win mag

Is the 300 Win Mag REALLY that drastically less recoiling than a 300WSM?!

I've never personally shot a Win Mag, but I can say that shooting the same brand ammo, same grain (150 Remington PSP Core Lokt) recoil difference in my 30-06 and my 300WSM is HUGE!

If that X-Bolt didn't have that nice, soft recoil pad on it straight from the factory, that 300WSM would be pretty unpleasant to sight in at the range.  The 30-06, not so much.  Heck, it even kicks less than my Stevens 200 270 Win with Remington PSP Core Lokt 130gr ammo.  Course that rifle only weighs a couple pounds.

With that being said, if you keep a good hold on your rifle when you shoot, you should be fine with a 4200 on a 300 Win Mag.



i had a .300wsm in a browning aboltII, composite stock. the gun weighed next to nothing with the scope and 4 rounds of ammo. i can tell you with 100% certainty that the .300wsm i had beat the hell out of me. i put a limb saver on it and it helped a little, but not enough. without a doubt, that .300 was the worst of the three ive owned as far as recoil goes with 180gr ammo. my .300wby doesnt kick like that and my .300win mag in a browning abolt  doesnt kick any more than a 30-06 with 180gr ammo.  its not as bad as a .300rum, but with a light weight rifle, its hell to shoot off a bench. that being said i would want a scope that could handle a beating.Big Grin


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The Bushnell can certainly handle the recoil.
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no doubt in my mind, mine has so far
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I have a savage weather warrior in 300 wsm, and like pyro, I can assure you it kicks like a mule.

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Maybe I can just take a beating???  It wasn't uncommon to take the 300wsm to the range and run 40 rounds through it.  This is all off a bench, but I wasn't using a lead sled or anything. just sand bags under the forearm.  I also use to take the 7mm-08, 06, 300 win mag X 2 (a browning a bolt and a cz 550)This is all same day.  All in all, in the day I would run over a hundred rounds cumulative.  Some days i would take the fireball and or a shotty.
The only one I excluded on a regular basis was the .458

But now I'm a poor college student and have sold off most of the toys, and can't afford to spend $200 in ammo on any given weekend. Hell I can barely afford gas, lol.

The 300wsm I had was a Winchester model 70 coyote, stainless with laminate stock, Harris 9-13 bipod, and it had a leupold VX II 4-12 AO mounted in leupold rings.  It was a little on the heavy side but not so bad.

If photobucket would let me post some pics I would show it off with the 186 8 whitetail I took with it in montana.
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http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=699899 .  I use it all the time when practicing.  There's nothing macho about developing a flinch.  In the field you won't feel the kick or think about it.  If you develop a flinch while load testing, etc, you're likely to flinch in the field.
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Originally posted by shockey shockey wrote:

Maybe I can just take a beating???  It wasn't uncommon to take the 300wsm to the range and run 40 rounds through it.  This is all off a bench, but I wasn't using a lead sled or anything. just sand bags under the forearm.  I also use to take the 7mm-08, 06, 300 win mag X 2 (a browning a bolt and a cz 550)This is all same day.  All in all, in the day I would run over a hundred rounds cumulative.  Some days i would take the fireball and or a shotty.
The only one I excluded on a regular basis was the .458

But now I'm a poor college student and have sold off most of the toys, and can't afford to spend $200 in ammo on any given weekend. Hell I can barely afford gas, lol.

The 300wsm I had was a Winchester model 70 coyote, stainless with laminate stock, Harris 9-13 bipod, and it had a leupold VX II 4-12 AO mounted in leupold rings.  It was a little on the heavy side but not so bad.

If photobucket would let me post some pics I would show it off with the 186 8 whitetail I took with it in montana.

yeah my gun weighed in at just over 7lbs with the scope and ammo in it. your gun weighed over 7lbs alone.
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Never been hit with my Bushnell Elite 4200 scopes (2.5-10x40 replaced with a 4-16x40SF) on my Ruger M77 Hawkeye .308Win...

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The 4200 is a great scope for the price. I think the only time one would worry about getting bit by a 3" eye relief would be if you crawled up on it. The same would apply to any scope on a .300 Win Mag- don't crawl up on the scope and save your eyebrow.
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