New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Bushnell 3x9 Trophy on a cant. 1300?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

Bushnell 3x9 Trophy on a cant. 1300?

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/02/2007 at 09:21
cinctum View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/02/2007
Status: Offline
Points: 2

Alright, before you guys turn the flame-thrower on  I already realize what the majority opinion on this is from lurking a little bit...

 

So, try to bear with me here. I hunt agricultural PA.  PA is mostly rifle-legal, but there are a few counties that are limited to shotgun slugs... and that I'd like to possibly hunt in the future. I picked up the 1300 cantilever for that reason - and because my interest in trying rifled slugs has been growing over the last couple of years.  I might leave my standby deer-rifle at home, and use the slug-gun, even in the rifle counties where my shots might be limited to 70 yds and less.

 

I understand why most would want the smaller diameter and lower power scope with the wider field of view. But, the deal is that I already have the scope mounted on another gun (like it), but would like to upgrade the scope that's on that rifle at the same time. I'm comfortable with taking my chances with the eye relief on the trophy, and think the circle-x might be nice for slugs.

 

While using this scope at the same limited distances at times, on a deer rifle.. I haven't had a problem with fast target acquisition - even at higher power, on deer moving at moderate speeds. I don't think you get as wide of an angle on the trophy, as you do the more current low power slug scopes. But, I think it is considered and marketed as a wide angle scope. 

 

Can anyone let me know if there are any other factors I'm overlooking concerning putting this scope on the 1300?  Or, why the configuration wouldn't work? Has anyone else tried this scope on a slug gun? Appreciate the input - good or bad.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/27/2007 at 12:38
Urimaginaryfrnd View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Resident Redneck

Joined: June/20/2005
Location: Iowa
Status: Offline
Points: 13877

My experience with cantilever mounts was with a remmington 870 cantilever rifled barrel. I mounted the scope and attempted to sight it in at 100 yds but while doing so I noticed that pressing lightly on the scope on cantilever gave it the shall we say DIVINGBOARD effect. Press down lightly and there was at least 5 ft of difference on what the x in the cross hairs was pointed at. Ultimately I gave up and bought several blackpowder rifles finding the TC Omega and Encore family to work the best for me.  I will note that this year I did successfully find one slug gun scope set up that works. TC Encore 12 ga Pro Hunter rifled slug barrel. Note this barrel requires a SPECIAL  scope base see my notation "ONLY USE PART NUMBER 030-9949 FOR A BASE TO MOUNT A SCOPE- ALL OTHER BASES SCREWS ARE TOO LONG FOR THE RECEIVER!!!!! "  on

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000314824

This is the result of taking a regular Weaver Encore base and running the screws all the way through into the inside of the barrel.  TC replaced it and I explained the problem to the place I bought the barrel. 
I say forget the slug gun - use a 50 cal TC musket  Barnes copper sabots 250 gr and 265 gr and work with 120 to 150 grains of tripple 7.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/04/2007 at 09:44
OK hunter View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice
Avatar

Joined: November/27/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 73

Why don't you mount it and see if it works for you.  If it does, you can give the forum some good feedback.  I know of no technical reason you can't use a cantilever mount and weaver type rings on a shotgun.  I do think there may be some shift in your POI if you take the bbl off then return it to the shotgun but some quick testing can solve this mystery.

I own a BPS and just bought a slug bbl with the cantilever bbl mount that I will scope shortly.  I won't use your magnification but If I had one that I was not using, I might try it.

Good luck and let us know what you find out.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/13/2007 at 11:06
cinctum View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/02/2007
Status: Offline
Points: 2

Thanks for the comments guys.

 

I can't just "forget the slug gun" Uri....LOL. I hear what you're saying. But, I'm just trying to work with what I have.  For good or bad, I'm a Win fan and ultimately decided to pick up this gun when it was offered to me....as new ones were becoming slim in availability. I have heard others talk of the diving board effect the cantilevers can possess, and the problems they inherit. Before acquiring the 1300, I looked at an 870 cant as well just for comparison. I have rem's as well - not a Ford/Chevy debate. If I remember correctly, the 870's rail was bolted onto the barrel, where the 1300's rail seems more solid, at least at the point of anchor. This certainly doesn't eliminate the diving board - just seemed more solid to me. A couple suggestions to eliminate this problem were made by another - none of them totally appealing. First he mentioned drilling and tapping straight down through the rail and inserting a screw - used kind of like a set screw to apply pressure to the rail, off of the receiver. I wasn't into that one too much for obvious reasons. Another was to obtain a piece of plastic/vinyl and create a wedge that could be gently driven (from the back) to serve the same purpose - just enough to apply pressure. I wasn't into that idea either - everytime you remove the barrel, you'd lose position of the wedge - not to mention what kind of hell the recoil would play on it. I guess someone could really get creative with this and combine the two ideas. But realisticly, it probably won't be me   

 

OK hunter - More than likely, I'll follow through with this (eventually) and post my findings. This whole thing is based around already having the 1300, wanting to update the glass I have on a rifle that the 3x9 trophy currently sits on, and using the 3x9 trophy on the 1300. 

Unfortunately, it's going to have to wait until the piggy bank says I can update the rifle's glass first.

 

I'll let you know how it goes....     

 

 

 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "Bushnell 3x9 Trophy on a cant. 1300?"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
$1000 to 1300 Bino chavo Binoculars 8 1/12/2007 7:04:47 AM
Bushnell Trophy 1-4x24 Trophy walstien Tactical Scopes 5
Bushnell trophy xlt Vs. Cabelas Caliber Specific Jaxon Rifle Scopes 1
Bushnell Trophy Red/Green Dot Scope for Shotty ksholder Shotgun / BlackPowder Scopes 13
NewCon LRM 1300 zafarimad Laser Rangefinders 0
WTB: Bushnell Trophy Turret Cap ddhotbot Optics For Sale 1
Bushnell Trophy XLT 1.5-6x42 anweis Rifle Scopes 2
Discontinued Bushnell Trophy 1-4x24? jdnan Tactical Scopes 1
Rifle cant, scope cant and counting horses teeth 8shots Rifle Scopes 13
Sightmark triple duty vs bushnell xlt trophy 3x9.? thegoaty Rifle Scopes 4


This page was generated in 0.328 seconds.