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Anyone have one of these that can provide feedback?  I know there are a lot of 1-4s to choose from, but 300 already seems like enough to spend.  Could be convinced if there was a much better product for say 100 more, but not going above that.  Never had a 1-4 before.
 
Planning to put it on a Burris PEPR mount which I already have, and either on an AR or AK for short to mid range engagements.  So basically would only see paper punching and target hitting duties unless something bad would ever happen.
 
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Have you considered the Nikon African? 


I've never seen this scope, or the Burris, but I would think the glass on the Monarch would be a little better, if you weren't hung up on the lit ballistic reticle of the Burris.  
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No, hadnt looked at that one to be honest.  Having had Monarchs and FFs, would agree glass should be bit better, also like the #4 reticle. 
 
Will dig in some more, thanks.
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the monarch #4 is nice.

but while glass on the nikon monarch might be better than the burris your looking at, is better glass more important than a solid strong scope for shtf?

(this is assuming the burris is built stronger than the monarch african)
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Burris sent me their new Full Field 30 Tactical and P.E.P.R. mount.  I was curious how it compared to the XTR-14.  The scope is 1-4x24mm with a 30mm tube and features their Ballistic CQ reticle.





Scope comes with factory slingshot lens covers.


And a technical sheet.


 Once I opened the box and unwrapped the scope I noticed the finish was excellent.  It has slightly more sheen than the XTR-14.  Kind of a satin finish.  Very nice.




The P.E.P.R. mount (30mm) in packaging.


Included with the mount is a Torx wrench and both sets of upper rings (Picatinny and standard).  Six screws per ring.  


And an installation instruction card.


The P.E.P.R. (proper eye position ready) mount.  The mount is designed to allow proper eye relief on a flat-top AR-15 rifle.  It affixes to the rail by tightening two base nuts.  




The FF30 Tac in the P.E.P.R. mount.



Fit of the mount to the scope was perfect.

Non-illuminated, 1x magnification at 50 yds.



Illuminated, 1x power at 50 yds.


Non-illuminated, 4x magnification at 50 yds.


Illuminated, 4x power at 50 yds.


I did not use the high illumination settings for any of the above pictures.  The setting depicted is middle to middle-high.  

I am not a professional photographer by any means.  Picture quality does not accurately depict the clarity of the optic tested.  The glass is extremely crisp and clear.  I was very surprised by the image quality for a ~$300 scope, as this is comparable to the XTR-14 (~$700) in sharpness.  There is a slight edge distortion in the FF30 Tac as compared to the XTR-14, which is sharp throughout the field of view.  

Illumination is activated by pushing the rubberized button on the left side.  It is adjusted in intensity by pushing again.  To reverse intensity settings it is necessary to hold the button for three seconds.  To turn illumination off, hold for five seconds.  Illumination will automatically shut off two hours after the last intensity change.  

Weight-wise, the FF30 Tac is 13.1 oz. as compared to the XTR-14 at 15.8 oz.  Lengthwise, the FF30 Tac is 10 9/32 in. long compared to 10 31/32 in.  

For a $300 scope it offers a number of features that make it stand out in this price range.  Burris could easily ask more for this optic, but it's good to finally see a quality scope for those who have to shoot on a budget.

The P.E.P.R. mount appears to be very well made and solid with a nice finish and should hold up to years of use.  It would be nice to see Burris offer this in a quick-detach configuration.  

I cannot emphasize enough how amazed I am with the quality of this optic.
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Thanks for the review!  Im buying one right now, looks to be sharp and your experience so far pushed me over the edge.  Doesnt hurt that the Burris HQ is about 20 min from my house either, leads me to believe if I ever do have a problem I can drive right there.
 
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good read.
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Nice post, the scope should do very well on an AR type setup. The pictures are very nice and really gets the point across, thanks for sharing.
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Havent got picks but got mine last night.  Extremely happy with finish of scope.  Havent had time to do much else but look through it at night, first impressions in dim lighting are very good, reticle is a bit smaller then i thought it would be.
 
Will post more if any interest, but at this point seems a great buy.  I just cant justify 700 or 800 for a 1-4 scope, this looks like it will do everything I need, I would rate glass so far at as good as my euro diamond, which is strange, but could be the lower mag.
 
 
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I know this is meant for an AR...but bought it for the AK....have a PEPR mount, thought it made it too high, but going to put it back on as the height needs to be higher for sight picture.  Will be a fricking foot off the barrel by the time im done...I should just order a man sized stock instead of this girlie thing....warsaw pact..

 
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Nice review! thanks for sharing!
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Thats a sharp looking AK, J!
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Thanks! Just got it tonight.  Arsenal sgl21 for 689 delivered, couldnt pass it up.  Now I have two I havent fired....need to get some range time....it was 12 below this morning, and supposed to be nearly 50 tomorrow....amazing weather out here
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Sounds about like the weather here... Only place I know of where you can get frostbitten and sunburned in the same day! .... hopefully you can get to the range soon! keep us posted!
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Jlud, good looking SGL21. Mine has been perfect and surprisingly accurate for an AK. I prefer the WARSAW stock, I shouldn't being 6'2", but started shooting AK's with the short stock and just can't get to liking the NATO length. Let us know how it runs.
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Nice looking combo.
Kinda confused, how is the sight picture too low when the scope is already above the existing iron sights?
 
Originally posted by JLud JLud wrote:

I know this is meant for an AR...but bought it for the AK....have a PEPR mount, thought it made it too high, but going to put it back on as the height needs to be higher for sight picture.  Will be a fricking foot off the barrel by the time im done...I should just order a man sized stock instead of this girlie thing....warsaw pact..

 
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The stock is somewhat short and uncomfortable for me...I am by no means a big guy, 5-8.  Its the alignment between the stock, hard to get comfortable and get a good picture because of that.  Its like I am bending over a bunch to use it, so if its higher up, the way the stock fits it works better for sight picture and more normal.

Make sense?
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Originally posted by JLud JLud wrote:

The stock is somewhat short and uncomfortable for me...I am by no means a big guy, 5-8.  Its the alignment between the stock, hard to get comfortable and get a good picture because of that.  Its like I am bending over a bunch to use it, so if its higher up, the way the stock fits it works better for sight picture and more normal.

Make sense?


Not really, but what ever works, right.

This scope is calibrated for 5.56mm but I'm curious how the 7.62x39 changes things, let us know whats the hold over like.
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Oh by the way what mount is that your using ?
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The mount is the Aresnal mount...its a bit pricey but works great.  Quick release, slides right off and on, seems very tight and that it should hold zero ok. Im sure there will be some shift, but think it would be minimal. 
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Originally posted by JLud JLud wrote:

The mount is the Aresnal mount...its a bit pricey but works great.  Quick release, slides right off and on, seems very tight and that it should hold zero ok. Im sure there will be some shift, but think it would be minimal. 


That is good to hear, have been thinking of getting that Arsenal rail, just have no experience with it and haven't talked to anyone that has one.
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Thanks for the pics and review, deadduck! 
Excellent job and much appreciated! Super
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Thanks for the pics and review, deadduck! 
Excellent job and much appreciated! Super


Thanks. Really am amazed at the quality of this scope, from the fit and finish to the crystal clear glass and wide illumination range and all for $300. Yippee
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Originally posted by deadduck357 deadduck357 wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Thanks for the pics and review, deadduck! 
Excellent job and much appreciated! Super


Thanks. Really am amazed at the quality of this scope, from the fit and finish to the crystal clear glass and wide illumination range and all for $300. Yippee

IF I wasn't waiting on the new 1-4x SS, I'd jump all over the Burris after your review, for sure! 
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If I had the cash it would be the new SS 1-4x, but since I don't the Burris Tac30 offers all I could want and more for a $300 optic, love the reticle!
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