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I'd appreciate it if somebody that owns or knows about the reticles on each of these two different Burris scopes can tell me if the intersecting lines on the ballistic mil-do reticle is the same thickness as the intersecting lines on the fine plex reticle ? (the fine plex is plenty good enough)

I want to be able to do very accurate paper punching at 100 yards and 32x power by using the center intersecting lines of the mil-dot reticle. (ie; I'm not planning on using the actual dots for precision shooting, and am reserving that some day just for hunting)
 
 
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According to the '08 catalog those reticles in the 8-32 BD and SS models have the following subtensions--

1) BD FP = .05 inch per hundred yds. (IPHY) @ 32x

BD BMD = .18 IPHY @ 14x, so @ 32x it should be about .08 IPHY.

2) SS FP = .06 IPHY @ 32x

SS BMD = same as the BD above.

 

 

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Fine plex is the best Burris offers for shooting targets IMO.  I've sold some of the other reticle Burris' because I thought they were a little too heavy.
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Horsemany,
 
I prefer to use holdover rather then dialing in my shots.
 
My only concern is how much trouble and how lost I might be to try and use the fine-plex reticle while estimating holdover.
 
 While the bal mil-dot privides reference points for elevation and windage on prarie dogs at 500-600 yards, I'm not sure how I can do that accurately on the fine- plex. 
 
 
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I hear that.  I still use my VX III with Varmint hunter reticle for p-dogs.  I thought we were talking about what reticle was better for target shooting and I assumed that meant paper.  Yeah the Burris ballistic plex is fine for both just not ideal for shooting paper.  If you need one to do both the ballistic plex will work.Devil
 
I've got other scopes I dial the turrets for p-dogs too.  And usually it's not that difficult to hold over with a regular duplex type reticle.  It's not quite as precise but neither are the ballistic reticles either.  You usually end up doing a LOT of trial and error with each.  If you have the time and range available it isn't that hard to shoot at 100,200,300,400,500 counting clicks and recording them.  You only have to do it once and you're pretty close even if you change loads.  Mine click chart is taped right to the top of the scope tube for quick reference.  Where do you shoot p-dogs?


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Horsemany,
 
99% of whatever shooting I will end up doing with my 16 lb 22x47L rifle, (it's being built at the moment) will be at my trying to shoot 5 shot 1/4" MOA paper targets at 100 yards. But, I want to have a scope on it that will also allow me to do PD shooting some day.
 
So, I was wondering if the cross hairs on the ballistic mil-dot were the same thickness as the fine plex.  My reasoning was that I would have the best of both worlds with it for both paper target shooting, and PD shooting. If and when I ever do PD shooting, it would be using the hold-over method. But, I'm starting to wonder if the intersecting section of crosshars on the ballistic mil-dot reticle are just not going to be very good for precision target shooting on paper. (??)
 
If I can be assured that I can use hold over accurately enough with a Burris Fine Plex reticle to shoot PD's out at 500-600 yards, then I  would prefer it over the Bal-mil-dot.
Not having any real hunting experience, I was wondering how you can use a fine plex for that kind of small animal hunting far out in the distance without any reference points or hash marks on the reticle.
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What we do is approximate by "bodies of prairie dogs".  Meaning if it's out 300 or 400 yds you might hold over 3 prairie dogs.  Meaning, hold the center of reticle approximately where 3 dogs would be if they were all standing on each other's heads.  It's all guess work.  Trial and error.  It helps to turn the magnification down far enough so you can see your hits in the dirt and adjust accordingly.  Most people I've ever shot dogs with DO NOT crank on turrets.  They either use a ballistic type reticle or just use reference points around the duplex reticle to get close.  It's not as precise as the uninitiated might think.   I've been getting close shooting at towns over 500 yds away.  Then the winds shifts ever so slightly and you're now missing by several feet.  And the wind always blows wherever there are prairie dogs.  By far the best reticle I've ever used or seen for pdogs/targets is the Varmint Hunter reticle by Leupold.  It was made to kill pdogs.  The ends of the hash marks are for 10mph wind and the floating dots off the ends are for 20mph wind.  It has tons of reference points and it's not very thick in the center for target work. 
If you get a reticle that's a little heavy in the center it's easily remedied by increasing the size of the dot you're shooting at so you can maintain a consistent center.  The Black Diamond I had with ballistic plex was a little heavy for straight target shooting but my group size never sufffered.  I shot many groups with that scope well under 1/2".  Last summer I had confirmed hits over 550 yds using the Varmint hunter reticle.  At that range you can shoot forever and they don't get scared.
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