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I have an older, gloss burris fullfield II3-9X40 that is made in usa on the eye objective. I see now that these scopes are made in the phillipines. Are there any known or optical differences between the made in usa models and the made in phillipines model? 

I got mine back about 2001-2002, when did they move over to the phillipines?
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/06/2012 at 20:03
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Optically they are similar but as for quality in build or design differences, the one's i have are factory reruns or display models and i'm no optics expert so i won't comment on that. Anyway despite being made in the philippines, the factories are co-owned by Japanese investors and tooling and machines used are the same ones used in the japanese factories, the major parts and lenses are imported and are only polished, coated, and assembled here. The labor force too in the factories are grade A contract workers and are among the highest paid here in se asia. The problem only here is the selling of rejects and reruns as new by scrupulous dealers, i doubt though that reruns are sold there in the U.S.
Anyway in case you don't know, vortex, leupold-redfield, nikon, pentax, bushnell, simmons, etc... all have at one time or are currently either having their scopes assembled here or are having their lenses polished, i don't if they have them coated here too. Most are optically good, very bright and clear though compared to the premier top of the line scopes like zeiss, swaro, etc.. specially at higher magnifications 12x or more, they can't quite compare except for a prototype i've seen from vortex, a 35mm tactical scope i think is the razor hd version though under a different name, viper ???strike force??? or ???strike eagle??? if i remember correctly, proposed to be made here in the philippines. That one seems as good optically as any hi dollar scope i've looked thru here. Big Smile

Edited by FunShot - August/12/2012 at 19:04
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I have both and the Filippino may be slightly better than the USA made but both are great scopes. 
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I have both and both work great for me. If there is a difference it aint "poppin" out enough for me to notice it. 
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Hello all just recently joined.  Been a lurker for awhile now. 
I thought I would chime in on this one as I have both Burris full fields from here in the US and one from the Philippines.  Not to knock the Philippines as my wife is from there but I noticed a little bit of a drop in quality when they moved to the PI.  I had to send my Philippine made 4-16x44 back to Burris to have the fix it.  I bought it from SWFA a few years ago and mounted it on my rifle and noticed that the cross hair was not level.  It was slightly canted.  I thought maybe it was me so I took it to a local gunsmith and he removed it and remounted it and found the exact thing wrong with it.  Now the Burris customer service was great to deal with and they replaced the scope without any questions so I can't fault them for it. 
I have since bought a Euro Diamond from them and was going to buy another FFII this weekend but when I took it out of the box to inspect it before the purchase I turn the magnifier and it was very difficult to turn.  The salesman tried to turn it and when he did get it to turn the look on his face was as if he did something wrong.  He said he felt something pop and said he would look for another scope.  Sadly it was the last one they had in 3x9.  So I ended up buying the Vortex Diamond back.  It's my first experience with it so I will see how I like it.  It too is manufactured in the Philippines.  Seems like a decent scope for the money. 
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