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I'm looking at these two scopes for a Savage 12VLP .223 Rifle.

 

Black Diamond, 6-24x50 with 30mm tube, Matte Finish, Ballistic Mildot, Target knobs, side focus  *** AND ***

Black Diamond, 4-16x50 with 30mm tube, Matte Finish, Ballistic Mildot, Target knobs, side focus

 

Questions ....

 

1. How close of a target can I focus on without parallax problems with these two scopes?

2. My plans are 100 yard target, and small game primarily 5-150 yards, but would like to try my hand a longer distance shooting also ... is one of these two more suited AND WHY?

 

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4-16x50 is a bit more versatile.

There are not all that many occasions when you can really benefit from magnificaiton higher than 16x.  On the other hand 4x comes in quite useful at shorter distances due to a larger field of view.  It will also have a somewhat more flexible eye position, etc.

Basically, the way I see it, unless this is a dedicated target scope or long-range varmint scope, there is really non need for a 6-24x.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

4-16x50 is a bit more versatile.

There are not all that many occasions when you can really benefit from magnificaiton higher than 16x.  On the other hand 4x comes in quite useful at shorter distances due to a larger field of view.  It will also have a somewhat more flexible eye position, etc.

Basically, the way I see it, unless this is a dedicated target scope or long-range varmint scope, there is really non need for a 6-24x.

ILya

 

Excellent advise from koshkin, friend.

Take the 4-16x and start shooting!!  

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Cheaptrick, we agreed again.

Cut that out.

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Yea, Yea, Yea.

 

The 4-16 range is more popular.  (and a fine recommendation)

The lower power does give a wider field of view.

I think the minimum focus on both is 50 yds but Burris tends to have an actual usable focus much closer.

But you know I really like my 8.5-25 Leupold Mark 4 so some of us out here do like the 6-24 scope. Take a scope you have and put it on 4x then put it on 6x  there's is not a lot of difference, but boy you sure can see those hundred yard holes in the paper at 24X. So as you can see there are benefits both ways. And the flip side is if you are after critters not over 150yds you might want even lower power with more light gathering ability. Consider these too:

6619 Nikon 2.5-10x50 Monarch Gold 30mm Riflescope Nikon 2.5-10x50 Monarch Gold 30mm Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Nikoplex
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
SWFA: $699.95

6622 Nikon 2.5-10x56 Monarch Gold 30mm Riflescope Nikon 2.5-10x56 Monarch Gold 30mm Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Nikoplex
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus  ********* AWESOME low light critter getter************
SWFA: $799.95

So even  with the best advise you have to decide what is right for you.

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I have a 4- 16 X 50mm from Burris. 

           Great scope, and the side PA is calibrated down to 60 on mine.  Very forgiving eye positioning.  I think Ilya once told me this was "non critical eye relief".  I would definitely own another if it were not for the new XTR from Burris with the illuminated Ball. Mil Dot system on it.  It even has the target turrets on it, so I will let you know once I get hold of one and test it out.

             Scott

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I am thinking that with as many posts as some of you guys have you could represent yourselves to the major scope manufacturers, as a consortium or even form your own scope company.

             Except for Ilya, who works for a big name in IR night optics, you might consider it.  I am sure Ilya is a VIP where he is at.

           scott

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