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03mossy
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Posted: March/24/2010 at 08:19 |
How do these 2 compare? glass quality and forgiveing eye relief are both important to me. there for a 22-250.
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lucytuma
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From what I've read and herd from my fellow friends here, is that the viper is going to trump the buckmaster in all aspects, Accept price.
Edited by lucytuma - March/24/2010 at 13:01 |
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lewwetzel
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I have a 6-18X SF Buckmaster on a .22-250. Good scope. Least favorite things about it are the "tunnel vision" and the rather heavy weight. Do like the 1/8" adjustments, sunshade and target turrets that come with it, and the quality "feel"of it. However, if I could live without side focus, I'd seriously look at a Weaver Grand Slam (AO) - which is another very good option in that general price range.
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lewwetzel
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One thing I missed regarding your question: eye relief. It's not the greatest on that Buckmaster, although I've seen worse. The Monarch, for not a whole lot more $, offers more eye relief and better glass. Personally, if I could do it over, I'd pop for a Monarch over a BM.
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Bigdaddy0381
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+1 I love my vipor
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Risasi
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Yeah, that doesn't seem fair to be comparing the two. More likely a reasonable comparison would be Buckmaster vs. Diamondback, as far as quality, glass, and overall build.
(BTW, you didn't specify what magnification level you're looking at. That can also make a difference.)
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03mossy
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I haven't decided yet. Not sure wether to go 4.5-14 or 6-18
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Risasi
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Sounds like you're thinking of vermin hunting...or paper punching?
What is the size/type target and anticipated distance? |
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03mossy
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Lots of paper punching, a couple P-dog trips a year, Coyotes in the winter. I got this gun basically to "learn" about longer distance shooting, reloading, gunsmithing, and all the other aspects of the high powered rifle world. Up untill now all my hunting was done with a muzzleloader or shotgun.
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Xlr8n
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The Nikon Monarch is advertised with 95% light transmission. The Buckmaster is 92% light transmission. (Pre 2005 Buckmasters, which is now the Prostaff, were only 90%)
The Monarch has about 1/3" greater eye relief than the Buckmaster in the sizes you are looking at.
The Viper is advertised with 95% light transmission. Vortex doesn't advertise the light transmission of the Diamondback.
Vortex has similar eyerelief and FOV stats to Nikon throughout their lineups.
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Risasi
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Okay, fair enough. Well, it seems like it comes down to personal preference for you on which magnification level you go with. I don't know the area where you hunt coyote, but if you're calling them in I'd be a little concerned about having 6x on the low end. Personally I'd take the 4.5x at the low of the two choices you listed. I actually prefer 2.5x (or less!) on the low end and aim with both eyes open for fast acquisition on close targets. Likewise, I am not a prairie dog hunter, but I've heard many guys have to crank down below about 14x once it warms up and the heat hits the ground. I want to try it, but I stuck with a 2-7x Viper. My thought is if I get around to it I'll try to hold my shots to 250 yards or less. So I decided I'd rather take a hit on mag level and get better glass. But to each his own. It comes down to how good your eye sight is too. Seems like you just need to start looking through glass and make sure whatever you get is what you want and will work for you. P.S. I corresponded with Paul at Vortex some months ago. He said that the Viper has about 3% better light transmission over the Diamondback line. FWIW... |
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Alan Robertson
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Buckmasters are nice scopes for the money.
Vipers are great scopes for more money. |
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I have a 6x18 SF mounted on a 17REM to shoot PD's and I like the scope for that purpose. I am looking at one of these http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44472.aspx as an additional pd scope.....I have never looked thru a viper always wanted to......
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OK don't if this ever been asked but how does the viper & buckmaster stack up against the SS?
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