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how does the buckmaster compare to the old vari-x II?  I have a leupy 4-12x40AO and I was thinking about getting the buckmaster in 6-18x40SF.  I wanted a little more magnification but I also hear the CS at Nikon isn't too good.
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10 - Swarovski Z6, Zeiss Victory

9 - Kahles C - CL & CSX, Schmidt & Bender

8 - Kahles KX, U.S. Optics, Swarovski PH & American, X.O.T.I.C.,  Zeiss Classic

7 - Bushnell Elite 6500, Leupold VX-7, Nightforce, IOR Valdada

6 - Bushnell Elite 4200, Nikon Monarch & Monarch X, Zeiss Conquest

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3 - Bushnell Elite 3200, Leatherwood, Leupold VX-II, Millet, Nikon Buckmaster, Sightron SI & SII, Vortex

2 -  Burris Fullfield II & Timberline, Leupold Rifleman & VX-I, Mueller, Nikon ProStaff, Simmons, Swift

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I don't see the OLD vari-x II in that list, only the VX series.
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I wouldn't let the uncertainty of Nikon's CS dissuade me from getting the Buckmaster. 
Chances are VERY high that you won't need it. Your milage may vary, of course.
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The VXII is better than the Vari X II.
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I think I heard that the old variX II is the same as the new VX I.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

I think I heard that the old variX II is the same as the new VX I.
 
I've heard the same.
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This is from http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/resources/faq/#questionFive

VX-III

  • The VX-III line was new for 2004, and uses ¼-MOA, low-profile, finger-adjustable adjustments and a fast-focus eyepiece. VX-III’s are fully multicoated and Index Matched to ensure that each lens has the best possible coating, producing total light transmission values higher than ever seen before.

Vari-X III

  • The Vari-X III line (discontinued for 2004 with introduction of VX-III) has seen little change and is still optically the same as those produced in the 90s. Vari-X III’s utilize ¼-MOA click adjustments and are fully multicoated with Multicoat 4.

VX-II

  • The VX-II line (2003 and older) uses a combination of Vari-X III and Vari-X II (discontinued) technology. VX-II’s also utilize ¼-MOA click adjustments, but the lens coatings are unique. The external lenses are coated with Multicoat 4 and the internal lenses are coated with magnesium fluoride.
  • Beginning in 2004, the VX-II line is fully multicoated and will perform comparably to the discontinued Vari-X III line.

VX-I

  • The VX-I also utilizes a combination of Vari-X III and Vari-X II technology, utilizing ¼-MOA friction (non-clicking) adjustments. The external lenses are multicoated and the internal lenses use magnesium fluoride.

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Good info Tahqua
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I'd good leupold over the buckmasters.
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Have both scopes and the old Vari XII is a better scope.Great customer service Leupold well repair any golden ring scope free of charge and is made in the USA.
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I don't agree, I believe that the value for dollar spent is better with the Nikon.
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The normal rule of thumb I follow is that if a certain Leupold and Nikon/Bushnell type (high quality Japanese brands) in the same configuration is the same price usually the better value and performance goes to the imported scopes. Not saying Leupolds are bad they just are more expensive so at a certain price point the quality Japanese scopes will usually be better. That is per my pessimistic mind so milage may vary.
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