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I'm wanting to buy an economical scope for my .308 (M1A) and was thinking about the BSA 6-24x40 Mildot SF scope.  I have never owned a BSA product and was wondering what you guys thought of it.  Good, Bad, and Ugly.
 
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I would steer clear of the BSA.  What is your price range you want to spend and maybe we can make some suggetions that will hold up to the M1A

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SVT is correct...BSA is about as low as you can go in the optic market. Even if you were only wanting to spend say $100ish you could find much better options. 
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BSA = bad and ugly. Not much for good.
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Originally posted by Bash Bash wrote:

I'm wanting to buy an economical scope for my .308 (M1A) and was thinking about the BSA 6-24x40 Mildot SF scope.  I have never owned a BSA product and was wondering what you guys thought of it.  Good, Bad, and Ugly.
 
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Bash.

What is your price range?  In just about any price range you can find something better than BSA.

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OK, you guys are telling me what I wanted to know.  Thanks!  Now, lets say $200 or less.  I'd like to have a #1.  side focus  #2. 40mm bell  #3. a variable between 4x and 24x #4. 1"tube .  How's that?  I just can't afford a high dollar glass right now, and after the scope I need rings and a mount.
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Burris Fullfield II or Vortex Diamondback would be my two choices in the $200 and under price range. However, you probably won't get more than a 4-12 or 4-14 max at that price from one of them. They will be a lot better scope though and the cheap stuff like BSA would probably not even be usable at 24 power.

Another option is the Pentax Pioneer 4-14 that Bestbuy.com sells that is supposed to be the Burris Fullfield II just rebadged. I don't know that you will get anything better than this for the price.

I also don't know that you will get a side focus in that price range.

I'd for sure steer clear of the BSA though. I've got two friends that love cheap scopes and are big fans of Simmons and Tasco's and even both of them have tried BSA and had horrible experiences and will tell you how bad they are. To me that's not a good sign since the scopes they love sure aren't great. If they dislike a scope I figure it must really be horrible.

If you have to spend money on a cheap scope, I think you'd be much better off with a Simmons than a BSA, but I wouldn't really buy either.
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Let me do this again.  I'd like to have a #1.  side focus  #2. 40mm bell  #3. a variable between 4x and 24x  #4. 1"tube  #5. Target turrets.  Now what's the best scope for the money and NOT going over $250.   Dang!  Now I'm upping the money I'm going to spend.
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Welcome


Bash, welcome aboard.


Do yourself a favor and steer clear of BSA. 

The vortex crossfire has everything you are looking for except the side focus. "but a 50mm bell" I bought 2 of them and they are decent scopes.

http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx


If $200 is your budget, I'd suggest any of these for the .308


http://www.samplelist.com/-P682.aspx  I have one of these on my daughters .243 I don't really like the BDC reticle but it's decent glass and side focus.

http://www.samplelist.com/-P663.aspx  I have one of these on a .22 mag and it's much better than a BSA

Might I ask what you plan on using the gun for that you'd need so much magnification on the top end? I'd also be curious as to what you have used in the past for optics. I ask because before I figured out that good glass is better than more magnification I had always bought the scope with the largest top end in the price range I was willing to spend. Doing it that way for years I had never really used GOOD glass. What ya trying to poke holes in Hoss? The more you share the more we can help out.


I'm no optics expert. Ilya and several of the regulars here actually are and know their gear. I have always had to budget around what I had versus what I needed and have a lot of knowledge of optics in the price range you mentioned. Give us some insight into what you plan on using the rifle for, it'll help all of us.


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http://www.samplelist.com/-P682.aspx
this you listed is a mil-dot which i agree the BDC works well  but I prefer a mil dot or plex
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Saw that midwest, did not know that they made them with anything but the BDC, but also saw there are 14 ava and are factory refurbs. I'd of rather had the mil dot, but my oldest really doesn't seem to mind the busy reticle. I should have waited Wink I gave almost $300 for hers. 
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Originally posted by Bash Bash wrote:

Let me do this again.  I'd like to have a #1.  side focus  #2. 40mm bell  #3. a variable between 4x and 24x  #4. 1"tube  #5. Target turrets.  Now what's the best scope for the money and NOT going over $250.   Dang!  Now I'm upping the money I'm going to spend.

Within your budget, you should steer clear from high magnification and too many extraneous features.  Concentrate on getting a scope with the basics well executed.

The best option for you would be the 4.5-14x40 Nikon Buckmaster from the SampleList.

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Same here, I am considering getting one of those with the mildot but hard to take 150 for the BDC when like you said droping 300 for it.
 
if i had to complain on 1 thing with the buckmaster  it is why is it so long. it looks so big on my AR compared top my Monarch
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The Vortex Diamondbacks are fairly compact.  You can ge the 4x12x40 from SWFA for under $200.  No side focus though.
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Thanks to all.  Now, if I spent some big money (big money for me) what do you think of this scope as far as quality and bang for my buck?
 


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1. Please don't link to an outside vendor for optics.  SWFA maintains the site and in the rules you agreed to when you signed up you agreed to not do that. 
2. Barksa IMO is about the same boat as BSA.
 
The scope you listed is around $400.00 I think you could get a lot better glass than the barska for that $400 and be better off.
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Sorry about posting to the vendor.  How can I edit it out?
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A mod will get to it. You do not have editing ability until you hit 50 post.  No worries.
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You may get a lot more recommendations by creating a thread that said something that would include the following.
-how much you want to spend
-what you are using the scope for (hunting, target)
-features & power you want to have.
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I changed the link for you.

Just like SVT pointed out, provide some information on what you are looking for and how much you are willing to spend.  That will make recommending something a lot easier.

That having been said, I can not imagine a situation when I would actually recommend a BSA or Barska product.

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Thanks....44 more. 
 
OK, I'm wanting a scope to put on my M1A.  4x to 18x or better wioth 40 or 44mm objective, mildot, side paralax adjustment, target turrets, 1" would be nice but can do 30mm if necessary.  I have a Burris 6-18 on my bolt gun but it was real expensive even years ago when I bought it new.  Then I sent it back to Burris to have target turrets installed on it.  It's a great scope!
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 And how much are you willing to spend,Bash?
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Dang it!  If I could only get all my thoughts together at one time!Sad  How much do I want to spend?  Between $200 and NO more than $400, preferasbly between 2 and 3 hundred.  Since I started this I've doubled the money I was willing to pay.  I want a good quality scope but I don't want to have to leave it in my will for the boys.  I dealy give me a Leuopold, but that's out of the question.  I've got champagne taste on a beer budget.
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You are still looking for more magnification than you need.  Bottom line is that more magnification does not necessarily mean you are going to see or shoot better.   If you really want high magnification, prepare to spend a lot more money.

For $400, the only high magnification scope I can recommend is Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44.  It is available with four different reticles and two are on a serious sale right now.  If you are ok with a plex or dot reticle, you can get it for $279.  MilDot version is $399.

Alternatively, you can look at a similarly discounted 4-12x40 version with a plex reticle:

In terms of a magnification range, 4-12x40 is a better fit for your rifle.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

You are still looking for more magnification than you need.  Bottom line is that more magnification does not necessarily mean you are going to see or shoot better.   If you really want high magnification, prepare to spend a lot more money.

For $400, the only high magnification scope I can recommend is Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44.  It is available with four different reticles and two are on a serious sale right now.  If you are ok with a plex or dot reticle, you can get it for $279.  MilDot version is $399.

Alternatively, you can look at a similarly discounted 4-12x40 version with a plex reticle:

In terms of a magnification range, 4-12x40 is a better fit for your rifle.

ILya
 
Those discounted Vipers are hard to resist and will go fast.  Those that pick them  up will be happy with the product I'm sure.  Even the 6.5-20 with the target dot for so cheap would fit his criteria being he seems to want more on the top end.
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