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I have recently looked at a Browning 15-45x60.  Great price and includes a kit for $330.  Problem is it is 48oz and I pack in.  I've used the Nikon and the Bushnell Realtree and Spacemaster camo respectively but they are not fully waterproof and in major weather both had condensation issues.

The Browning is waterproof, fogproof, ED glass, fully multi-coated, rubber armor so for the money has all the features but it is heavy compared to others.  (I've heard Bushnell makes their scope, can anyone confirm)?

Just don't have the cash to drop for a scope over $500 so I could use some recommendations. Also, the toughest economical pack tripod.

Primary usage is hunting where I am packing in and need to deal with winter weather.  Like anyone else, I'm looking for the best quality, performance, warranty my money can buy

 

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Bushnell Trophy $190 - $220(depending on model)

Leupold Gold Ring $360 - $450 (depending on model)

 

All of these are waterproof, fogproof, shockproof, come with a lifetime warranty and are extermely compact (especially the Leupolds) and will work wonderfully for packing in.

 

Best packing-in tripod is your day pack.  Just lay the scope over the top edge while the pack sets either on the ground or in the V  where a tree branch connects to the trunk.

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It is basically a lower end Bushnell Elite made by Bushnell for them.
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Let me try this angle as I'm stuck in which direction to go.  The Browning by description and stats seems to be as good as any of the scopes I'm listing below when it comes to glass, Eye relief, Exit Pupil and Field of View.  If I'm being fooled, by all means speak up.  From those i've discussed with regarding ED glass, they tell me the clarity is very significant at higher power.  I'm open to the good the bad and the ugly on any of these so I can narrow this down.

Browning 20-45 65mm, Meopta (Hermes70), Nikon FS III w20-45x, Kowa 602 w/20-40x & Fujinon w20-60x w/a. Here's where I struggle. All are water proof (a must), multi-coated lens and the other top features.

The Browning package looks fantastic with ED glass 66mm for extra brightness, 20-45x included etc. It is 48oz, however and for packing its allot of extra weight. At $329, it sounds to be an unbelievable deal for ED glass. 

The Meopta is around $500 w/20-45x and 70mm body
The Kowa TSN 602 is around $525 w/20-40x and 60mm body
The Nikon is around $600 w/20-45x and 60mm body
The Fujinon is around $530 w/20-60 w/a and 60mm body

Lots of info and hopefully you can help me narrow this down. I understand they all are good product but it seems accept for the weight the Browning has it all for a much reduced cost. Quality, warranty and tough in the field are a bid deal to me.
One last item, I have been told that beyond 45x the view becomes very distorted due to heat waves etc. Does it really have much value going out to 60x?

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Anything above about 30X (maybe 40X on an exceptional day) is basically useless for hunting, etc.  It can be nice for stargazing and other amateur astronomy efforts.
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Smokey--
    I hope the Browning worked out for you well, because after reading your post, I took the plunge.

    17mm eye relief.

    Extra low Dispersion Glass
   
    Fully multi-coated.

    Water proof and fog proof.

    Bak4 prisms.

    Rubber armored.

    65mm instead of 60.

    There sure is a lot to like there.  I'll post a review once I get to use it.


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Originally posted by gremlin gremlin wrote:

Smokey--
    I hope the Browning worked out for you well, because after reading your post, I took the plunge.

    17mm eye relief.

    Extra low Dispersion Glass
   
    Fully multi-coated.

    Water proof and fog proof.

    Bak4 prisms.

    Rubber armored.

    65mm instead of 60.

    There sure is a lot to like there.  I'll post a review once I get to use it.


 

 

Well Gremlin,

 

How is this scope?  What are your observations?  Is it a fairly good buy?

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