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I'm looking at buying a Browning Optics (really a Bushnell scope with the Browning logo?)
2-7x32.
 
There's some info on the Interent about this scope but some of it is contradictory and none of it seems to be first hand, ie. "I just bought a Browning/Bushnell 2-7x32 and this is my review of it."
 
I have done a lot of searching and can't find any "real" info on it. Some say it's the equivalent of the Bushnell Trophy, others say the Legend and still others say it's like a hybrid of the 3200 and 4200 Elites. Very confusing stuff. I hope to find someone here who actually owns one.
 
I plan to mount it on a little Browning semi-auto .22 takedown model. Do you guys think this is too much scope for a rimfire. My eyes don't do well with iron sights anymore and I need magnification. Will do a little varming popping and some paper punching too. This looked like a decent compromise scope to me.
 
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 I've heard the same things you have, and I don't think more than four people on the planet could tell you exactly what it is, even if they had it in thier hands. I'm sure the components and parts vendors change periodically from year to year, anyway,  even if Browning calls it the same model,  I can say that the guys who have them seem happy with the quality and the price, the only complaint I've heard is lack of Rainguard coating.

 I bet you would find it to be nearly perfect for your little  Browning .22 semi-auto.
Just be aware that the parallax is probably set at 100 yards, instead of 50, as a true rimfire-specialty scope should be. Leupold and Weaver make ideal rimfire scopes you might want to check out first on the SWFA store site.
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Here's an old Browning spec if that helps.
 
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Mickey, I have a browning 3-9x40 mounted on my TC Encore 50 cal. and I compared it to a 3-9x40 Bushnell Elite 4200. They appear to me to be the same scope. The adjustments are identical, the eye pieces are are exactly the same and the length is the same. When looking at the lenses the eye piece has a blue/green look to the coatings and the objective lenses have more of a green tint to them (both scopes). The duplex reticle is identical in both to be honest the view through them to me is the same. I cant gaurantee the browning is optically as bright or clear as the 4200 but in my opinion it is in this particular model. I dont know about the raingaurd because I havent tested it in any way. I remember the first morning I took the browning hunting and I was impressed with the brightness, the only thing I dont like is that the reticle in both scopes tends to fade or change to a silver or bronze almost transparent color when the light enters the scope from differnt angles mostly from behind you and in very low light the reticle isnt thick enought for me to make it out as well as I would like. The only differences I see are the Browning scope caps are bigger with rubber grips which I like better because they are easier to get a hold of, The adjustment ring is a little bigger and the scope tube stair steps down in size from the objective end to the 1 inch tube instead of the usual gradual smooth slope all other scopes have. I think for your gun it will be great, I really liked it for the price I got it but I may sell it and the 4200 and get a Zeiss Conquest with #4 reticle or Z-plex I am favoring heavier reicles now. If I dont give the 4200 (BRAND NEW AND STILL IN BOX) to my brother, I will sell it on the OPTICS FOR SALE forum on this site for a great price(still deciding). The only thing about the browning is I dont know if the warranty is still good on them or not. I will say that the view through the browning is a very comfortabe one, not too small and it its not super sensitive to eye placement behind the eye piece to where your eye has to be exactly perfect or it will be blacked out. Mine holds zero and adjusted were very good. Hope this helps. PM me with any other questions.
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Browning ( through Bushnell )  will honor the warranty. It is essentially the 3200's construction with 4200 lenses ( minus the Rainguard) . As it was discontinued, they are selling them quite a bit cheaper than a year or so go when the going price was around $230. I have two  2x7's on 12ga slug guns and a 3x9 on a 30-06 Rem 7400 and no complaints . For today's selling price of around $130, they are a really good buy.
Ronk is right about the parallax, as it is not specifically a rimfire scope. 


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Thank you guys for some straight talk about this scope.

Do you really think parralax would be a problem from say 10 to 50 yds with this scope?
 
It is an AO, right? So even if I were shooting out to 75 yds I could adjust it to that distance, no?
 
I'm in my 50s and I've never heard or read anything that explained "parralax" welll enough that I truly understood just what it is. Hey, I never said I was a genius.
 
Is there a sticky here on the forum that has an explanation a simple-minded man like myself might understand if I read it 5 or 10 times?
 
Thanks again fellas,
 
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Originally posted by mickey mickey wrote:

I'm in my 50s and I've never heard or read anything that explained "parralax" welll enough that I truly understood just what it is. Hey, I never said I was a genius.
 
Is there a sticky here on the forum that has an explanation a simple-minded man like myself might understand if I read it 5 or 10 times?
 
Thanks again fellas,
 
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Welcome to The OT, Mickey.
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I don't think you will actually have any Reticle Movement optical effect at the power range you are talking about----2X to 7X---at close distances, BUT you WILL see the objects in your scope, at--let's say-- EVERYWHERE closer than 65 yards, as slightly OUT OF FOCUS. The Browning scope is parallax adjusted from the factory to be parallax-free at 100 yards....Just like the scope on your centerfire rifle....if you see a deer at fifty yards with your deer rifle, you can blast him, but if you happened to notice---he was slightly out of focus in the scope because he was close to you. Kind of like a camera lens---you can't focus FIVE FEET away!
 
If I were you I would get a regular Rimfire scope ( like a Weaver 2X7) that is parallax adjusted for close 22 ranges. 
 
Personally, I have a regular "centerfire" type scope on my 22 rifle, but I generally shoot it beyond 65 yards.  I COULD shoot a squirrel with it at closer range, if I wanted to, but he would be kinda out of focus.  The higher the power, the more likely you can get a parallax error in your point of aim. My scope is a 6X, so it's not that big a deal.  I would like to get a scope with an adjustable objective on it, however, to bring my closer targets into the proper focus.  Smile            Oh, the 2X7 Browning does not have an AO on it.     --Ed
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