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hi, im going all out on my custom .308 deer rig, money no object and i seen the prevoius posts on low light and brightest on budgets, i want a .308 deer hunting after the sun goes down best all out scope, thanks guys ill base my purchase on our list, greg

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You asked for it ----- You Got IT:

ELCCT40 New Elcan 1x SpecterCT Thermal Sight                                                                                    New Elcan 1x SpecterCT Thermal Sight
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Now for a reality check. First my game warden doesnt like people to hunt after the sun goes down so lets concentrate on that still legal almost dark part of the day when bambi comes out - and say the larger the objective size the brighter the exit eye pupil will be so keeping things somewhat within reason we are looking at either a scope with low magnification  and lit reticle such as:

11420 Aimpoint 2x 9000L 30mm Red Dot Sight                                                                                    Aimpoint 2x 9000L 30mm Red Dot Sight
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or alternatively at something with about a 56mm objective and lit reticle like:

TR22 Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope                                                                          Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
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57069 Swarovski 2.5-10x56 Professional Hunter 30mm Riflescope                                                                 Swarovski 2.5-10x56 Professional Hunter 30mm Riflescope
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The best low light scope you're going to find for a reasonable price would be the Zeiss 6-24x72.

 

I own a Zeiss 3-12x56 Divari with an illuninated recticle on a Rem 7mm mag and all I can tell you is WOW!!!! 

 

It is the Ferrari of scopes in the 56mm class. Where I hunt deer you can sit 1 hour past official sunset. I always play by the rules & I've sat right until the last few minutes & I could still see deer with no problem out to 75 yards on some of the darkest evenings.

 

I can only imagine what the 72mm objective can do.

 

 



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Or plan B from samplelist:

6547 Trijicon 4x32 ACOG TA01B, Full Line Red Illumination, .308 bullet drop reticle, ready to mount in carry handle, 100% new in box, display model   $699.95

GGG1192 GG&G Trijicon Accessory                                                                                                 GG&G Trijicon Accessory
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30606F Badger Ordnance Maximized Scope 1 Piece Rail                                                                            Badger Ordnance Maximized Scope 1 Piece Rail
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Brightest and best image will come fro the Swaro 2.5-10x56 above.  At 2.5, with a 56mm objective, it'll be the best thing short of night-vision.

 

And the image is magnificent.

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Got to go with a Zeiss Diavari 56mm but I imagine the 72mm would be even better!
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Obi Wan Kenobi ----"Zeiss 6-24x72-------no problem out to 75 yards on some of the darkest evenings."  come on  -----   at 6x anything over 42mm is wasted, at 6x an object at 600 yds looks like open sights at 100 yds --- so with that in mind do you really think that you want to go 6-24.   Take 56mm divide that by a 7mm exit eye pupil and you get 8X so anything over 8x is going to start looking darker due to the smaller exit eye pupil. Now if you went 72mm and divided that by 7mm exit eye pupil you get 10.28 so even by jumping from 56 (oversized) to 72 ( extremely oversized) you only got a little over 10 x that will be useable and to have power levels below 6x is certainly more valuable when hunting.

 

 


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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

Obi Wan Kenobi ----"Zeiss 6-24x72-------no problem out to 75 yards on some of the darkest evenings."  come on  -----   at 6x anything over 42mm is wasted, at 6x an object at 600 yds looks like open sights at 100 yds --- so with that in mind do you really think that you want to go 6-24.   Take 56mm divide that by a 7mm exit eye pupil and you get 8X so anything over 8x is going to start looking darker due to the smaller exit eye pupil. Now if you went 72mm and divided that by 7mm exit eye pupil you get 10.28 so even by jumping from 56 (oversized) to 72 ( extremely oversized) you only got a little over 10 x that will be useable and to have power levels below 6x is certainly more valuable when hunting.

 

 


 

I'm just telling him about my experience with my 3-12X56 Diavari. In this state you are allowed to sit 1 hour past official sunset.

 

I can only tell you that I've sat in deer stands on some of the most cloudy overcast evenings well after sunset & the 3-12X56 Diavari performed past my expectations for a rifle scope.  

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Also have a zeiss vmv 3x12x56 and its the best low light scope I have .I have S&B USO IOR all are great scopes but for hunting in low light  I think zeiss is best
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When it comes to conventional optics it for sure is 6-24x72.

There is no reason to just use 6X because you can see better at 10X.

At 10X you have 7,2mm exit pupil and the scope is brighter than any 56mm scope at any setting for that distance.

 

Trijicon ACOG is not to be considered a night scope, not with that objective and no with 65% lighttransmission, and Aimpoint can never be a night scope either as it's stealing quite lot of light.

 

It's easy to think to much theory, but try it instead.

I have practically testet is quite a lot and I do mostly of my nighthunting with 6-24x72.

Some months ago we tested the low light capabilities on Burris and Zeiss Rangefinding scope.

We had a hare on 140 meters and a fox at 30 meters.

30 minutes after we no longer could see the hare in the scope we could still see it in the -72mm.

 

Some years before I had tested on a hare at 150 meters and the fox at 300.

This was in late september.

We tested Zeiss 6-24x56 and 6-24x72 against each others, and the 72 won with 15-30 minutes depending on the shooter.

 

Regards Technika

 

 

 

 

 

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Obi Wan Kenobi  the 3-12X56 Diavari is a perfect choice but my objection is to you telling him to use ===={The best low light scope you're going to find for a reasonable price would be the Zeiss 6-24x72.} Mainly because I think that is too high of a power to use for a deer hunting scope in the day time much less at night eaven if it is legal shooting hours especially if you are shooting under 100 yards which is likely.

 

www.technika.nu a 6-24x72 please  -----  have you ever hunted deer----- sorry but that is way too much scope for the way most people hunt deer. Many deer are encountered in heavy brush as close as 15 yards. While I have shot deer at over 600 yards it is not the norm. I have an aimpoint on my 12 guage slug gun and it kills deer just fine. I have a 3-9x40 Nikon Omega on my 50 cal musket and it kills deer just fine. I have another 50 cal musket that has a Leupold 4.5-14 x50 and it is as much scope as one could wish for. I have a Bushnell 4200 4-16x40 on another musket and it could stand a little more eye relief. The 30-06 rifles I used in Texas had 2-7x32 and 3-9x 40   DUH those are deer rifle scopes.  We are not talking about shooting mice at 200 yds.  So please - a 3-12x56 is plenty of scope.     I kill most of my deer with a Matthews Bow at 20 to 30 yards.



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Urimaginaryfind

 

He asked for the best low light, brigthest scope he could get and money is not an issue.

The answer on that queestion is Zeiss 6-24x72.

Its really a wonderfull scope for all low light hunting.

 

I would never use it on a driven hunt or daytime in close quaters, but night time it's really the scope.

Daytime driven hunts short distance I do normally hunt with Aimpoint, longer ranges 3-12x42.

 

I have hunted deer quite a lot, mostly of the time from a fixed position and it's then i use the 6-24.

Another big advantage with the 6-24 is that is a built in spottingscope.

To determine what animal it really is the optical quality of a Zeiss 6-24 is a great aid even when the deer is on 100 yards, espsially if its low light situation.

I have a Swarovski 30x75 spottingscope, i do never carry it the same time as i carry the 6-24 as the resulution is far less on the swarovski than on the Zeiss scope.

 

Regards Technika



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thanks, for all the info, i deciced to go with a s&b 2.5x10x56, i wanted to go a zeiss, its that gut feeling to go with s&b, i guess ill see how it works out this deer season.
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