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Multi torque and adjustable torque drivers for scope mounting and firearms action screws.
 
Here's a new line we just picked up that offers a very high quality and adjustable torqe driver.
 
Video review by Frank galli of Snipershide.com.
 
 
 
Stock # - BORMG5

MG5 driver kit, includes MTD-15x72-12FS-MG driver, TAB GEAR pouch and extra Sniper RifleAccessories:

  • A. 2" long bit holder (Autolock extension or secondary driver spindle)
  • B. 1/4" hex (male) drive to 1/4" square (male) drive adapter
  • C. 1/4" square (female) drive to 3/8" square (male) drive adapter
  • D. Compact 1/4" hex ratchet wrench
  • E. 1/2" hex socket with 1/4" square drive
  • F. 3 1/2" long custom 3/16" hex bit for AICS action screws
  • G. Hex: 3/32", 7/64", 9/64", 5/32", 3/16", 3 mm, 5 mm
  • H. Custom 3/16" hex AICS action screws bit (not pictured)
  • I. Total of 18 bits (1/4" hex, S2 steel) in 2 compact bit organizers:
    • Torx: T-10, T-15, T-20, T25, T-30
    • Slotted: 4.5 mm, 7 mm
    • Phillips: #1, #2
  • Specifications of Borka Tools multi torque driver:

    • Made in the U.S.A. _______ Patent pending.
    • 12 fixed torque settings: 15,18,21,24,27,30,36,43,50,57,65,72 inch-lbs.
    • Torque settings calibration accuracy: +/- 4%
    • Materials: stainless steel, alloy steel, structural polymer
    • Warranty: 1 year limited, parts and labor
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    Stock # - BORMG3

    MG3 driver kit, includes ATD-15x72-12FS-MG driver and 2 adapters:

    • A. 1/4" hex (male) to 1/4" square (male)
    • B. 1/4" square (female) to 3/8" square (male)

    Specifications of Borka Tools multi torque driver:

    • Made in the U.S.A. _______ Patent pending.
    • 12 fixed torque settings: 15,18,21,24,27,30,36,43,50,57,65,72 inch-lbs.
    • Torque settings calibration accuracy: +/- 4%
    • Materials: stainless steel, alloy steel, structural polymer
    • Warranty: 1 year limited, parts and labor
     
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    The new MG5 kit now includes this custom 3/16" hex AICS action screws bit.
     
    If you already have a Borka kit the bit can be purchased seperately here:
     


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    Dangit, seems I am always one step ahead of you SWFA guys.... of course it's in a bad way... I just picked up the Wheeler Fat Wrench, which I never would have bought if you guys were stocking these.  Next time I need something, I'll just wait a week and you guys will start offering it haha.  All kidding aside, looks like a great product, and I will be getting one from you guys, I just might have to wait a bit.
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    Anything that says "do not attempt to disassemble due to dangerous spring pre-loads" I gotta have....
    Brady, send me one... CFII has my info.
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    I have one of these kits (picked it up from Borka Tools during SHOT) and it absolutely rocks.

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    Just purchased this kit a month or so ago; Top-of-the-line gear.
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    I'm very delighted that SWFA decided to offer my tools to its customers and joined the ranks of Borka Tools authorized dealers.
     
    Brady did a terrific job on Borka Tools product page, and I got to admit that I was also very pleased by the speed and effectiviness of our communication.
     
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    Got mine in the mail yesterday.  I've readjusted most of my scopes and bases.  I like it a lot...

    Well worth the money.  It is far less cumbersome than the Wheeler torque driver.  

    Good investment in a great shop and field tool.


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    Originally posted by kortik kortik wrote:

    I'm very delighted that SWFA decided to offer my tools to its customers and joined the ranks of Borka Tools authorized dealers.
     
    Brady did a terrific job on Borka Tools product page, and I got to admit that I was also very pleased by the speed and effectiviness of our communication.
     
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    Welcome to the forum, Boris!

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    Boris, you really had some insight inventing this tool. I've always been skeptical of adjustable torque wrenches and have invested in one Seekonk 65 in. lb. wrench. They're one of the best but are heavy and I've never felt inclined to drop the coin on another to do scope rings and bases although it would be a good idea.
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    Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

    Welcome to the OT!
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    Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

    Originally posted by kortik kortik wrote:

    I'm very delighted that SWFA decided to offer my tools to its customers and joined the ranks of Borka Tools authorized dealers.
     
    Brady did a terrific job on Borka Tools product page, and I got to admit that I was also very pleased by the speed and effectiviness of our communication.
     
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    Welcome to the forum, Boris!

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    Hello, ILya
     
    Thanks a lot, my friend.
     
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    Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

    Boris, you really had some insight inventing this tool. I've always been skeptical of adjustable torque wrenches and have invested in one Seekonk 65 in. lb. wrench. They're one of the best but are heavy and I've never felt inclined to drop the coin on another to do scope rings and bases although it would be a good idea.
     
    Thank you for your kind words. I really can not claim any especially deep knowledge of torque products, although since I've started Borka Tools, I did accumilate some of it. Current multi torque driver design is more like a product of a common sense in engineering, which I try to practice.  Also, I do not typically fight the technical problems if I run into them, instead, I put the whole design concept on hold even if one major component is not to my liking, and start all over again. So, at the end of the day, I've had several very different designs to choose from, and current multi torque driver design appeared to comply with specific objectives.
     
    I agree with you that adjustable torque driver of mechanical type, which relies on spring characteristics only to output torque values in a wide range, has its limitations both in accuracy and consistency, and is also subject to some operator's error, so all my efforts went into the concept of  "fixed" (preset) torque tools right from the start.   
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    I just got one of these yesterday. The Borka is great...just for its versatility alone compared to a fixed-weight torque wrench. If I was an armorer or gunsmith I'd have an array of Seekonks sitting on my bench, but I'm a value-oriented guy. Yet until this tool came out I just couldn't bring myself to trust a variable torque wrench. If you know anything about torque wrenches in general, even really good ones come with an advisory that they are only accurate within a percentage of the setting, e.g. +- 4%

    I was surprised to see that I haven't even been tightening my rings to the bases @ the recommended 50-55 in-lbs. I took them up to 50. I also loosened and re-tightened my cap screws to 21. So now I not only know that my action screws are set to the same setting each time, but have a reliable tool for ring and base mounting.

    A really nice thing about using a torque wrench, especially screwing steel into aluminum (!!!), is you can't go too far and strip threads. I also like knowing that all the screws are tightened the same amount. The only possible shortcoming of the Borka is that unlike the Seekonk you can't back screws out with it, at least according to the warning printed in bold, red type stating that the driver is for tightening right-hand fasteners only. I don't see what it would hurt to just hold the metal bar end though and loosen the screw without involving the spring-loaded handle.Perhaps kortik can weigh in on that.
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    Anyone compared the Borka to the wheeler adjustable?  Should I go aheand and swap?
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    I own both.  The wheeler gets used on stuff I don't give a damn about.  If it's gun related, Borka all the way. 
     
    The Borka SRA kit is more accurate and repeatable - checked against a Snap-On in/lb. torque wrench that had been recently calibrated.
     
    The wheeler did and does work, but mine is off on it's calibration.  This is one of those times where you do get what you pay for.
     
    You can use the Borka kit for loosening - I use the mini ratchet that came with the kit all the time, and have used the torque bar for loosening as well.  I believe that the printed warning refers to the fact that it will only be accurate to the stated value when turning in a tightening motion.  Boris will have to verify.
     
    This is a great piece of kit.  Well thought out, simple, durable, and packable.   The TAB Gear roll up pouch is great also.  I have the SRA Kit, plus a few more bits that I added and it all fits nicely.
     
    This is a fine example of you can pay more, but you can't buy better.  When you consider all the torque values you cover with this kit, compared to the individual seekonk wrenches the Borka's value becomes readily apparent.
     
    After using my Borka SRA for several months now, I'd buy another without a second thought.
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    In hindsight, I might have gotten the full kit, but have so many of the bits already. The mini-ratchet would have been about the only extra I'd want. The wording in the warning is understandable, but perhaps Boris could add one more line, saying "If you need to loosen a fastener, hold only the bar-end or use another tool."
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    Gentlemen,
     
    Just a brief clarification about the warning not to use torque driver as a general purpose T-handle:
     
    Vast majority of the customers, including you, would not be likely trying to unscrew some much larger fasteners, originally installed with lots of torque.  However there is always a possibility that some of the customers may attempt to do it. 1/4" hex drive has its limitations, typically, it works real well up to 200 inch-lbs. Larger torque may cause damage to this relatively small size drive. On the tightening side, driver does not let the user to exceed 72 inch-lbs., and fully protects 1/4" hex drive from any serious damage. However, if somebody, who is really strong and determined, grabs the driver by the metal arm and attempts to remove some "frozen" fastener, say, larger that 1/4"-20, the value of the torque required to accomplish this task may easily exceed 200 inch-lbs.
     
    Also, fasteners, even small size ones,  installed with thread lockers (Loctite and other brands) may be much harder to remove in principle. If you happen to run into the need to remove such fasteners, please use either L-shaped allen hex key, Mountz mini ratchet or other similar tool.
     
    People with understanding, like youself, can certainly use the torque driver to remove fasteners installed with use of the same (or similar) torque driver (wrench), by holding it by the metal arm itself, without any issues. I do include Mountz mini ratchet wrench in MG3-SRA to speed up the process in general and to "protect" 1/4" hex holes of the torque driver from excessive stress if somebody decides to remove fasteners installed with much higher torque  than my driver is designed for.  So, this warning is included, let's say, just in case...
     
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    Originally posted by FireEMT5 FireEMT5 wrote:

    I own both.  The wheeler gets used on stuff I don't give a damn about.  If it's gun related, Borka all the way. 
     
    The Borka SRA kit is more accurate and repeatable - checked against a Snap-On in/lb. torque wrench that had been recently calibrated.
     
    The wheeler did and does work, but mine is off on it's calibration.  This is one of those times where you do get what you pay for.
     
    You can use the Borka kit for loosening - I use the mini ratchet that came with the kit all the time, and have used the torque bar for loosening as well.  I believe that the printed warning refers to the fact that it will only be accurate to the stated value when turning in a tightening motion.  Boris will have to verify.
     
    This is a great piece of kit.  Well thought out, simple, durable, and packable.   The TAB Gear roll up pouch is great also.  I have the SRA Kit, plus a few more bits that I added and it all fits nicely.
     
    This is a fine example of you can pay more, but you can't buy better.  When you consider all the torque values you cover with this kit, compared to the individual seekonk wrenches the Borka's value becomes readily apparent.
     
    After using my Borka SRA for several months now, I'd buy another without a second thought.

    I have a Wheeler and have used it for years quite successfully.  I have checked calibration regularly and it has always been within spec, actually, until recently, better than spec.  It has degraded to +/- 1inlb in the last year.  Still spec... nothing wrong with Wheeler.  I do like the Borka as a "bag unit" better, though.  It is more useful as a field tool.  
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    Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

    Originally posted by FireEMT5 FireEMT5 wrote:

    I own both.  The wheeler gets used on stuff I don't give a damn about.  If it's gun related, Borka all the way. 
     
    The Borka SRA kit is more accurate and repeatable - checked against a Snap-On in/lb. torque wrench that had been recently calibrated.
     
    The wheeler did and does work, but mine is off on it's calibration.  This is one of those times where you do get what you pay for.
     
    You can use the Borka kit for loosening - I use the mini ratchet that came with the kit all the time, and have used the torque bar for loosening as well.  I believe that the printed warning refers to the fact that it will only be accurate to the stated value when turning in a tightening motion.  Boris will have to verify.
     
    This is a great piece of kit.  Well thought out, simple, durable, and packable.   The TAB Gear roll up pouch is great also.  I have the SRA Kit, plus a few more bits that I added and it all fits nicely.
     
    This is a fine example of you can pay more, but you can't buy better.  When you consider all the torque values you cover with this kit, compared to the individual seekonk wrenches the Borka's value becomes readily apparent.
     
    After using my Borka SRA for several months now, I'd buy another without a second thought.

    ......I do like the Borka as a "bag unit" better, though.  It is more useful as a field tool.  
     
    That was in the purpose of the design - to make a "bag unit", field tool... No more, no less.
    Thank you for clearly expressing the rational behind Borka products. 
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    Thanks for all the info & assistance.
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    Original post has been updated with the new MG5 kit and the new Custom 3/16" hex AICS action screws bit.
     
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