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 I am the happy owner of a Blaser r 93. 
Now, i have seen the new R8 and must admit it looks pretty cool. I havent heard from anybody who owns it and are having expience with it. Anybody out there??
Is it shooting as well as the as the 93?. Pros and Cons????
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Hi, Claus...
Blaser rifles aren't very common here in the US because of their $4,000 USD and up price tag here, so you aren't likely to find many owners. 
 
As for the R8, I have handled them at shows, but have never fired one.  Since the barrel is made the same way as with the R93 (chamber and bore are both hammer forged in the same step), the barrel mounting method is the same, and it uses the same basic collet style bolt head, I would imagine they shoot about the same on average as the R93.  The overall design is very similar, with the R8 being a larger rifle overall.  I believe the main differences between the R8 and R93 is the R8's action and bolt head are larger so it can handle larger cartridges and it has a detachable magazine.  The magazine and trigger assy detach in one integral unit.
 
I really like the straight pull bolt and overall design concept of the Blaser rifles.  From a mechanical design standpoint, they are very interesting rifles, and I might be interested in buying one if they weren't so expensive.


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There was an article about the 93 and 8 a month or two back in American Rifleman.  They do look like neat rifles.  I considered saving up for one til I saw the price tag.  Whacko  
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Hi RifleDude.
You are right they are pricy as h... Over here the R8 basic model is app. 6000us$ in retail ( i need a left hand rifle)
I have allways been more than satisfied with my R93. 
It`s got a great balance, is short and handy, the reloading system is fantastic, and it is very accurate. 
The only reason i have for changing it is that it is a right hand rifle, and ever since i tried to shoot with a lefty i badly wanted one. 
Acturly i just wanted a lefty R93 but since there is a newer model on the market, i whish to suck as much info about it before getting into the deal.
I was not aware that the R8 is larget than the 93. None of the local dealers have them in stock here.
 

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Claus I dont own one, but i got got to shoot one this weekend.

R8 Attache in 9.3 x 62 mounted with a Swarovski Z6 2-12 x50.

What a fantastic rifle. Wish I could afford one, but they are even more expensive here in S.A. This one had a price tag of $10000.00, without the scope.
Rifle has a nice weight to it, with a semi weight barrel and a Kickstop in the stock. The new Desmodromic trigger is fantastic , best trigger I have seen on factory rifle. Straight stock really helps with recoil compared to the more traditional Bavarian style, I could have shot this rifle all day over a bench. We shot two loads in 9.3 a Barnes 250gr TSX and a PMP(local ammo company in S.A)286gr solid. Both loads managed to print under an inch, even though the rifle's owner hasn't done any load developement yet. I've been wanting a Blaser since I first got my hands on one 4 years ago, every time I start saving I have to spend the money on something else. But mine will definately be a R8 in 9.3.

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Hi Cris.

The Attache is app. 8000US$ over here. 
Sounds like you had a nice day at the range. Big Smile Big Smile
What distances did you shoot on?
I have read about the trigger, it should be crisp as glass.
I can see the stock is more straight than on the 93.
I have to talk to the local gunpusher and get him to get one in stock so i can check it out.
Thanks Cris

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Claus we shot at 110m as we had to shoot into a river bed, trigger really is fantastic really crisp. One of the groups that my friends son shot was 4 shots cutting each other and the 5 shot just a touch off. I never had a chance to shoot the R93, but the R8 is fantastic rifle. I have handled the R93, and the R8 handles the same.

What caliber are you looking at?

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It sounds like they are pretty much the same when it comes to accuracy. Excellent
My plan is to stick to the 30-06 and then buy a smaller barrel for deer. Maybe 6,5 55 or smaller.
I don`t know the caliber you shot with.
I mostly hunt Roedeer, a smaller deer weighing app. 25 kg for a good deer. 
Is it also your impression that the R8 is larger than the 93?
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Claus I havent compared them side by side but as far as I can see they are excately the same size. R8 has a straight stock and the detachable magazine, the case is a bit bigger to accomadate a space for the magazine(trigger). The magazine incorprates the trigger as well, so the whole unit detaches. We shot a 9.3x62 Mauser.

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I can`t wait to try it out!!!!!
What are you mostly hunting down there?
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Sounds good to me. Big Smile
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Originally posted by Claus Claus wrote:

Hi RifleDude.
I have allways been more than satisfied with my R93. 
It`s got a great balance, is short and handy, the reloading system is fantastic, and it is very accurate. 
The only reason i have for changing it is that it is a right hand rifle, and ever since i tried to shoot with a lefty i badly wanted one. 
Acturly i just wanted a lefty R93 but since there is a newer model on the market, i whish to suck as much info about it before getting into the deal.
I was not aware that the R8 is larget than the 93. None of the local dealers have them in stock here.
 

Claus,
 
Why don't you just get a left hand bolt and bolt head for your current R93?
 
You could probably find a good deal on a used bolt and bolt head if you advertise on Blaser Buds Forum and Blaser Pro Forum.
 
The R93 stocks, receivers, and barrels are all ambidextrous. Only the bolt and bolt head have to change. All R93 assemblies are interchangable - not fitting necessary.
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Hi Jack.
The reason i am not buying a LH bolt is that here in Europe there are no such thing as used ones for sale.
Believe me, i have been all over. Smile

A new one cost somewhere around 625 us$. 

Now. I could buy a new one but it is still not a LH rifle. The cartriges are still comming out in rh side unless i put another 400us$ on top of it for a new magasin. 

The place where you put your chin ( i dont know the english word for it) is also sitting on the "wrong" side.

I haven`t seen or heard about the forums you tell about but i will defenately check them out. Thank you for the info.

Ok. In case i bought a bolt in USA. I would need need an export licence thats gonna cost me app 400 us$ (depending on state)

I would also need an Import licence over here, i dont know the price on that but usually theres no free lunches when it comes to paperwork from the authoraties.Whacko

Regards 
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Originally posted by Glock Glock wrote:

Claus I havent compared them side by side but as far as I can see they are excately the same size.
 
R8 action is a bit larger to accommodate larger cartridges.
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Claus,
 
My R93 is a Professional model and the stock is ambidextrious. No left and right hand specific Pro stocks exist. If you have a wood stock model with right hand specific cheek piece then that justifies needing a new frame. I was unaware that their were any right hand specific stocks for the R93.
 
I do not believe there is such a thing as a left hand magazine insert for the Blaser R93. If you look at your magazine insert you will see it is single column and the cartridges stack in an arc - almost a semi-rotary fashion. I am pretty sure that they all arc the same direction. Here in the US, a Blaser owner would have little problem selling his right hand bolt and bolt head to help finance the purchase of the left hand parts.
 
Both forums I mentioned have active classified sections. There are several Europeans on these forums and they might be able to advise you on your best options there.
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Rifledude like i said never seen them side by side, but you are spot on. Not just with the larger cartridges, but also the magazine capacity on the R8 is higher by 1 round on most calibers.

5 shot group that my friends son shot



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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Nice shooting!

for that kind of coin it damn well better!
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Hi Jack:

My 93 is with wood stock model. (Or to put it right, my former 93 as i just sold it.) 

I checked up on that with magazine and i have to correct myself. I was misinformed about that, theres only one type of magazines i have now been told.

The forums you wrote about, looks like they have a lot of good infos. Looking foreward to dig deeper in to them. Smile

I am now going for an R8. We are 5 guys that hooked up around buying 5 R8s with extras, in one deal so we will try to get them for a better price. Hope it works.

Glock:
Nice shooting.

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You get what you pay for.Wink
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Originally posted by Claus Claus wrote:

Hi Jack:

My 93 is with wood stock model. (Or to put it right, my former 93 as i just sold it.) 

I checked up on that with magazine and i have to correct myself. I was misinformed about that, theres only one type of magazines i have now been told.

The forums you wrote about, looks like they have a lot of good infos. Looking foreward to dig deeper in to them. Smile

I am now going for an R8. We are 5 guys that hooked up around buying 5 R8s with extras, in one deal so we will try to get them for a better price. Hope it works.

Glock:
Nice shooting.

Pyro:
You get what you pay for.Wink

really?? here is a $500 wby vanguard in .300wby mag three shot group at 100yds.Wink



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