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    Hi E1

 

     Well here in eastern NC black power season is less then a month away. I have been hunting with a Traditions LD 45. It has not let me down yet. I shoot 110 grs. of powder and a 245 powerbelt. I have a 3X9 bushnell 3200. Groups are the size of a half dollar at 100yards.

 

 I love the gun But I want to try some new stuff, like a T/C oncore and the omega scope. I might even try using pellets, But I am not sure on the powerbelts.

 

  What I am asking is for some of you that shoot the oncore,omega is to tell me the bullets you use and what type of powders. and the scope. I know every gun has its own taste. But hearing what you all use might help me cut to the heart alittle faster. Any input is good. Thanks E1......

 

   Oh bye the way I had to get a new online name my old PC is gone and I went with hughes.net and I couldnt get back in here as Pooreyes. So I am not new to the place.  

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 I use an  50 cal Encore with a Bellm 1x oversize hinge pin and hammer spring . It is stainless, and I recently added pro hunter stocks . I topped it with a Leupold  VX-III 2.5-8x36 in silver to match . My 14 yr son shoots the identical rifle , but I topped his with a Bushnell 4200 1.5x6x36 Elite. I will probably swop my Leupold out for the same. It is just a touch clearer and I like the bolder reticle better. I tried quite a few loads ( it didn't like Powerbelts much), and ended up shooting two 50 gr and a 30gr combo ( 130 grains total ) of 777 pellets pushing a 250 gr  TC ( Hornady) bonded sabot. I make sure to give the bore a decent clean between shots, and have been getting 1 inch  to 1.5 inch three shot groups at 100 yd.s . I tried going to 150 grains of 777, but  the groups opened  up to just under 3 inches, so I stuck with 130 grains. I am curious to get my hands on 777 new "magnum" pellets to see how they do .

My father uses  a composite stainless Omega. His is topped with a 3200 Elite 2x7x32. We also added a Limbsaver recoil pad ( good stuff). He likes it alot. The Omega was much easier to find a load for. It shot 245 Powerbelts, TC  250 gr sabots , and 240 gr XTP sabots within acceptable limits ,and all grouped in the 1.5 to 3.5 inch range at 100 yd.s , The Powerbelts shot the worse, and the XTP's and Shock Waves the best.. . He uses 100 grains of Pyrodex. We shot up to 150 grains of both 777 and Pyrodex pellets, but we backed it down to 100 grains to keep recoil in line ( he's had a 5 way bypass). He also stuck with Pyrodex cause he has a bunch of the stuff. He also shoots with the 240 Gr XTP sabot  load. He uses the same bullet in his 44 mag S&W 29 and Marlin 1894 and has had good luck with it.

 

Good luck with your choice. Either one will perform great, but I like the barrel versatility of the Encore. It even makes a fair trap gun with  a 12 ga barrel and  Truglo Titan adjustable choke tube.



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    Thanks for the info. Martin.

 

  I went a head and got the Oncore and got the Omega scope from here. I looked around for the Oncore in 45Cal. But I couldnt find it,without ordering it so I went a head and got it in the 50 Cal. Now I need to find out what to use 777 powder or the pellets. then find out what type of load to go with. Sounds like the powerbelt didnt work so hot for you. 

 

   I wish a few more people would share thier Info with us. I'll post again after I take it out to the range.

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Here is some advice for you I copied out of one of my posts earlier in the year.  I have actually been shooting this setup for about a year now.  I shoot quite a bit, probably about 30 rounds a week.  I am achieving consistent accuracy (6 inch group) out to 250 yards with the combo listed below.  I shoot the omega but my father in law who shoots with me shoots the same load with the same accuracy out of his encore.  Anyway, here is most post from before, hope it helps:

 I recently purchased a Nikon Omega scope with the BDC reticle for my Thompson Center Omega.  Before this scope, I have only hunted with Leupold scopes so I was a little hesitant to purchase it and try it out.  Glad I did though.  After about 300 rounds with different bullet and sabot combinations, I have found a load that really works wonders in the Omega with the Nikon Omega scope.  I am using 150 grains of Triple Seven in pellet form.  I am also using a 250 Hornady XTP bullet (not the MAG variety) and the black hornady high pressure sabots.  I have the gun sighted in at 100 yards.  To make a long story short, the circles in the scope work perfectly at 150 yards, 200 yards, 225 yards, and 250 yards.  With a bench rest at the range I was able to keep a 3 1/2 inch group at 200 yards, a 4 1/2 inch group at 225 yards, and a 6 inch group at 250 yards.  Before using this scope, the best I could ever do was a 4 1/2 group at 200 yards and could not shoot past that.  I had the opportunity over the past two weeks to hunt in Delaware and Maryland for the early muzzleloader season.  I was fortunate enough to take five deer over the two week time period.  The gun and scope worked flawlessly.  I hunt out of tripods with gun rails so I did have a gun rest while hunting.  I took two of the deer inside of 100 yards.  Another deer I took at 170 yards.  The final two deer is what completely sold me on this scope and gun combination.  I took a doe at 215 yards and a nice buck at 247 yards (all ranges were found using a nikon legend rangefinder).  The bullet hit right were I aimed both times.  Both deer went about 25 yards and fell over.  If you are looking for a great scope, look no further than the Nikon Omega.  I like it so much I just bought another and put it on my Austin Halleck muzzleloader and will be testing it out soon.  Just for everybodys information- Austin and Halleck just stated that they are going out of business.  They make great muzzleloaders and are beutiful guns (they use fancy maple stocks on their guns).  While these guns are normally on the expensive side, Austin and Halleck is selling them for 50% off while supplies last.  You can check it out on their website.  They are very accurate and beautiful muzzleloaders and you can't beat the price at 50% off.  Looking forward to being a member at opticstalk and hearing from all of you.

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