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I currently own several Burris scopes, one of which is a Black Diamond. I am looking to purchase another  Burris scope, possibly another Black Diamond. Everything that I've read and even after speaking to the technical service reps at Burris make me believe these scopes are nearly identical(optic quality) . The only difference is that the Black Diamond has parallex adjustment and the Euro doesn't. The cost is the only other difference that I've noticed the Euro costing less. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction?

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         I feel that the Blackdiamond is a better scope than the Euro.

Parralax adjustment is a big feature for me and it is something that

is required when making precise long shots. Lets take your standard

3-9x40 scope for example this a a great hunting scope for medium to

large targets out to about 400 to 600 yds, but take that same scope

and cut the size of your targets at these ranges and you are in big

trouble due to parralax. The Khales 3-9x40 CL has become a very

popular scope recently because it has great glass and a side focas

parallax adjustment in this very popular configuration.  Hope this helps.

 

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This parallax issue eally depends on how far you are shooting and how big your targets are.  If you are trying to shoot out to 500+ yards, parallax adjustment is a big deal. If you are trying to shoot the smallest possible groups, parallax adjustment is also a big deal.

If you are a big game hunter, parallax is unnecessary for the most part. 

Also, I am not a very good shot, so I know that when shooting far out, parallax is the least of my concerns especially since I try to keep a consistent cheek weld every time.  Also,  let's say I have a 2" uncertainty due to parallax issues at 500yards.  Can you easily resolve 2" at 500 yards with a typical midrange hunting scope set at 6-9x? Unless lighting is really good, not all that easily, even at 9x.

As for EuroDiamond vs BlackDiamond, they tend to come in slightly different configurations:

Black Diamond start out with a 4-16x50 and goes toward higher magnification with all scopes having 50mm objectives.

Euro Diamond starts out with a 1-4x24 and tops out with 3-12x56 models with objective lens ranging from 24mm to 56mm.

I think the choice here should more along the lines of: "what magnification range do I want?"

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I had a Black Diamond 2.5-10X44 and a Euro Diamond 2.5-10X44 at the same time.  The Black Diamond was a much better scope in terms of clarity and brightness.  I even sent the Euro back to Burris there was so much difference.  They sent it back and said it was fine.
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mwyates you are not the first person I have heard this from now about the Euro

and the Black. I was hesitant to mention something like what you described

because I have never owned or handled the Euro. Great Info, this will make

3 cases now with similar feedback.

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 I appreciate everyone's input to my question. I am really leaning toward the 4x16x50 BlackDiamond vs. the 3x12x50 EuroDiamond. A friend of mine is a dealer and his cost difference is only about 90.00. The price isn't that significant especially if the brightness and clearity is in question.

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