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What is everyones take on binoculars with built in rangefinder. I look at it as 1 less thing to carry and worry about. Out here in the west it is common for longer shots, so range is fairly important if you agree, what would you look at? Budget could be up to ~1200.00
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I think you are going to be pretty hard up to find a good quality pair of bino/rangefinder for $1200. 

But I guess that depends on what level of glass quality you are looking for.
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So if 1200.00 isn't enough , then what is. The leicas are ~2300.00.
 Ive looked at rangefinder for ~600.00 and binos for ~ 1000.00. i need something for rifle hunts , and glassing is vitally important.
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The Leicas are awesome, but like you said $2300.  The Leupold ones suck big time and I would not even consider. 

I would go with this http://www.swfa.com/pc-8801-47-leica-7x24-crf-900-rangefinder.aspx

And some Vortex Razors http://www.swfa.com/c-2125-vortex-razor-binoculars.aspx

Or maybe a pair of Zeiss conquest.  http://www.swfa.com/c-207-zeiss-conquest-binoculars.aspx

TO my eyes the Vortex were better than the conquest when I compared them side by side.  Also, Meopta makes very good binos that glass wise are very even with the Vortex Razor.

You get into the binos that are in the $750 to $1000 and you are getting some really nice binos that are 90 to 95% as good as the $1300 to $1500 plus binos.

Also, those Leica CRF RFs glass is so good you could almost use them as a monocular and forgo the bino's.  But I wouldn't recommend that for extended viewing.  I use my CRF 1200 for that sometimes when I don't want to carry my Meopta binos and it does the job pretty well.



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My take is, and always has been this.  Why in the world would anyone want a binocular/rangefinder combo?  That is not because I think it is a bad idea.  That is because at this point there is too damned expensve and too damned cheesy.  Even the Leica has a warranty that sucks compared to their non geovid glass.  At this point, even assuming you get the Leica, you have a heavy glass, poor warranty (maybe Leica quality never needs the warranty but there has to be a reason they offer less warranty), a battery, and extra complications in the technology that Murphy and his law will apply at the most inopportune time.  Right now, I will always take a good binocular of the $500-800 range and a seperate rangefinder that will show the true balliastc distance over any available combo.  I am not arguing the Geovid is of lesser quality glass and no better than the Razor class binoculars, it is simply too complicated and heavy for me to warm up to.  The less expensive combo units are too poor in optic quality to be decent binoculars, let alone good combos.  Kind of like digital binoculars.  Tie a cheap digital camera on the back of a cheap binocular and suddenly the world is on fire.  Yeah right.
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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

I am not arguing the Geovid is of lesser quality glass and no better than the Razor class binoculars, it is simply too complicated


All you have to do is push a single button and it tells you the range.  Doesn't get much easier than that.  The ones with all extra stuff in like the Leupolds are the ones that are difficult.
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in that price range get a swaro rf and use the 8x glass as a monocular would be better than any combo,  best is the zeiss bino/rf with the ballistic program built in that gives the hold over in the bino readout.

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All you have to do is push a single button and it tells you the range.  Doesn't get much easier than that.  The ones with all extra stuff in like the Leupolds are the ones that are difficult.
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WOW!  Really!  That is not what I was talking about.  You have an increasingly complicated interior construction of the binocular that allows for the one push of a button.  I understand why that appeals to people.  I will still take the  less complicated internal structure of a standard binocular.  If you wish to spend the money for the Geovid and lug it around, you certainly have my best wishes.  May each time you use it be better than the last time.
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My bad, I incorrectly interpreted what you typed.
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Well, my bad too.  I should have checked, but I truthfully thought I remembered the Geovid weighing closer to 40 oz.  Something in the 30-32 oz range is OK when weight is not of a real concern.  So I will have to retract the too heavy aspect of my above Geovid comments.  I will however, stand by my stated opinion that for now, the concept of a combined rangefinder/binocular combination is not something I will warm up to.  And I really do understand why that concept appeals to others, just not me.

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To  Klamath, I actually would love to have an image stabilizer bino with a built in rangefinder. The more things built into one unit is less to carry. Yes it is more things to go wrong in one unit, but look at todays automobiles, they are full of crap and rarely do thng go wrong.
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