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I have an unfortunate problem where I use a set of Lieca 10x42 at work. I have bias towards their oustanding quality, but I cannot justify the cost in owning my own pair. I am looking for something in the $300-$500 range for hunting. Is there anything close or am I dreaming.  Thanks
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Having access to the Leica binocular at work may cause a problem.  I have a Vortex Viper 10x42 which is right in your price range that is a good binocular.  It has always showed me what I needed to see with it.  I do not have a problem going back to it or my Swift 7x36 Eaglet after temporary use of high dollar glass.  But, in your case, where you might well use your work binocular more than your personal binocular, this might be a problem, unless you use your personal binocular at work as well.  It is fairly easy to like a binocular like the Viper, Eaglet or the Pentax SP if you let yourself just enjoy them for what they are and try not to pick them apart for faults.  Constant comparison to a premier binocular may not allow that.  I wish you luck. 
 
The Viper class of binocular is very close to the upper end, but there is always some difference.  Different people react to that inherent difference differently.  I would put the Viper at 95-98% of the Leica.  Somebody else might say 90%.  In my case the 'wow", is in the "wow, look how good the Viper is for the money paid".  It is however not a high end binocular.  I also think there is a noticeable difference in the favor of the $500 sort of binocular like the Viper, Eaglet, or SP as compared to the $300 sort of glass like the Nikon Monarch.


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Originally posted by GSP_Riley GSP_Riley wrote:

I have an unfortunate problem where I use a set of Lieca 10x42 at work. I have bias towards their oustanding quality, but I cannot justify the cost in owning my own pair. I am looking for something in the $300-$500 range for hunting. Is there anything close or am I dreaming.  Thanks


Your bias can't be very strong if, having used one, you still can't justify their cost.   Sounds more like you like the idea of owning a Leica but, your wallet's bias toward holding on to your cash is stronger. It requires a pretty hefty premium to have that little red dot on the side of your optic's chassis. I know I've yet to find a "premium" binocular that I thought offered quality that came even close to justifying the price.

Your in luck however as Klamath has steered you correctly.  There are plenty of options in your up-to-$500 price limit that give most (if not all) of the performance and quality of the Leica - at the expense of a little less brand prestige.  Leupold, Bushnell, Pentax, Nikon, Vortex, Minox, and numerous others all offer products that will fit the bill.  




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Thanks for your help, yeah a very strong wallet bias, got a wee one on the way so got a bit of gorse in my pockets.
 
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Originally posted by GSP_Riley GSP_Riley wrote:

Thanks for your help, yeah a very strong wallet bias, got a wee one on the way so got a bit of gorse in my pockets.
 
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You have a spiny yellow-flowered European shrub of the evergreen family in your pockets?
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  Minox was the redheaded step child of Leica for a while...
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Yeah, it's a saying we have here, when you are too tight to spend your money, you have gorse in your pockets which prevents you getting your wallet out.
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Hello,
 
I just registered here, so this is my first post.  I hope you will find this forum and it's contributors as helpful as I have.
 
I just wanted to add to the examples already mentioned.  Here in the U.S., one can get a set of Leica binoculars within (just barely) your price range.  The 8x30 Conquest is a very nice set of binocs.  They compare favorably with the others at the high end of your price range, and are lighter in weight than many others as well.    I can tell you that they are better than the heavier Steiner Merlins that are about the same price, and are well worth the price over a Nikon Monarch or similar.
 
I don't think that these outperform some of the other good ones in your price range (like the Pentax or possibly the Minox), but if one puts additional value to a German name, then you might like these quite well.  Just another suggestion to through into the mix....
 
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  I am currently Test driving a set of the Vortex Razors. For the $749 price they will give you a Wow when you first look thru them. You have to look in much higher price ranges to equal the clarity. I realise they are well above some of the other Binoculars listed but if you can get into this range they are well worth a look.

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If you don't need waterproof roof-prism, it's hard to beat Nikon Superior E's.
I have, for sale, NIB Nikon Premier LX in 8X32 and 10X32 and they are fantastic.
I owned Viper Vortex and sent them back after comparing to the Nikon Premier LX
read about them here....http://www.betterviewdesired.com/Venturer-LX-32s.php
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+1 for the Nikon LX in that $750 price range.   The Leupold gold ring is also very good and costs less. 
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You can get the Zeiss congquest 8x30 for 550 all day, and on special right at 500 so that would be a good choice. Only downside is that they are not as high power as the leicas. The zeiss are excellent, but the leicas are the best.
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Try the red-headed stepchild, you can always return it if you don't like it.

Minox BD 10x44 BP

http://www.swfa.com/p-5837-new-minox-bd-10x44-bp-binocular.aspx

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