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ok i have this little problem( big problem to me). i went out last night to shoot my rifle and shot a couple of times no problem. but after the 3 or 4th shot i put the back end of the scope into my eye leaving me with a pretty nice shiner. now i  know the scope isnt to close to my eye because i set as far up as possible on the gun(i think its 3.4 in away).after holding my self back from throwing the gun in anger and rage.i  came to the conclusion it was me who was at fault.i have had this happen 3 times now but only once(this time) did it get me real good.so i come to you. what in the heck am i doing wrong. i really dont want another, thats for sure. thanks

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You are not holding the gun butt tight enough into the shoulder.- this allows the rifle to have more back and forth movement than normal and is usually caused by length of pulls that are to short. Other contributing factors are the scope is mounted too high such that your cheek does not roll back with the stock, and is left in its high postion to get smacked by the stock.
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thanks. i went and shot today. i think im kick shy now(or whatever you want to call it) im flintion and its only a 308. any way to correct this?

 

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Ok, is your elbow up? I mean up, like level with your shoulder so that your making a straight line across your collar bone.
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good question i dont know. im shooting tomorrow. i will let you know then. i dont pay much attention
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Got to hold the gun. no excuse for letting the scope hit you in the eye!
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The elbow should be up to get the muscle out of the way, that way you get good contact with the collar bone.  Now, the gun has no place to go and will recoil straight through.
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upcreek2 what r u talking about?!?!?!?!? i didnt know i was making excuses. as said in the first post "i  came to the conclusion it was me who was at fault".

anyways......

 

with my flintching is there a way to over come this now that have it? i think i still just worried about getting another one of these.


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Originally posted by duckdog132 duckdog132 wrote:

upcreek2 what r u talking about?!?!?!?!? i didnt know i was making excuses. as said in the first post "i  came to the conclusion it was me who was at fault".

anyways......

 

with my flintching is there a way to over come this now that have it? i think i still just worried about getting another one of these.


 

I don't think upcreek2 was trying to crack on you. He was just stating the obvious is all.

 

Try some dry fire drills. These really help me when I find myself flinching or pulling my shots.   

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Have you considered selling your 308 and buying something like a 260?
It is so much better on the recoil and will handle game like deer just fine. In fact, I like it better.
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I like to help but to better understand, it be helpful if I knew what type of rifle, scope, and load (reload or factory) that you are using when this happens.  Also, what kind of shooting position are you in when this occurs, bench, standing, or sitting down on the ground.  Do you have a good cheek weld, firm grip on your rifle, rifle butt secured against the inside part of your shoulder, are you squeezing the trigger or pulling the rifle back towards you, sometimes a nice crisp 2 lb trigger solves a lot of problems, maybe your trigger needs to be adjusted. To control my flinching sometimes I will have someone I trust load my rifle with my back turn, and then turn around a shoot not knowly for sure if the rifle is loaded or not when I pull the trigger.     

One time I was shooting two like rifles, both were Ruger 77 and both wore Redfield Tracker scopes. It so happens that these scopes don't have rubber eye guards.  One rifle was a 257 roberts shooting 100 grain bullets the other was a 30-06 shooting 180 grain bullets.  Since the 257 doesn't have much kick I would not hold it as tight as the 30-06, no one was more surprised than me when that 257 roared like my 30-06. Not only did it hurt, that scope gave me a little half moon cut right between the eyes, like they say "Ouch That's Gonna Leave A Mark".


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Like Cheaptrick said, I wasn't saying that you were making excuses.  Just saying that you must be ready and holding the rifle before you squeeze the trigger.
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sorry then upcreek2 then if i miss took what you said... billD1. im shooting a savage model 12 stainless in 308 with a leopold 3-9x40 scope. it happend both times when i was bench shooting. the other gun was a benelli supper b/e 12 ga with a bushnel trophy scope. i can handle both fine as far as kick goes so i dont think i need to change cal/. i think my prob is at the last second i pull my cheeck off the gun because of the fear of the scope hitting me but im not sure... when i shoot standing it doesnt happen at all. both guns hae a 3lb trigger pull. i dont want to go less because when im in the field with gloves on i dont want it going off. any thing else you might need to help let me know. 
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I going to venture and say it happen to most of us. My suggestion is to verify your trigger pull and if it is on the short side add a LimbSaver Recoil Pad. Wal-Mart has the small size for twenty dollars.

My 10FLP .308 kicked my shoulder black and blue until I removed the hard 1/2" rubber pad and slide the LimbSaver over the butt of the stock. Of course LimbSaver want cure your eye being to close to the scope. But, like the others said, YOU NEED TO PLANT THE BUTT STOCK INTO YOUR SHOULDER.

After you determine you like the LimbSaver you can replace the slip-on with permanent one.
   
 
 
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I assuming you are experiencing about 15 foot pounds of recoil which is manageable. I think you are crawling up the rifle from a bench rest position. Besides flinching a little, I also think you are pulling the rifle back into your shoulder at the same time when you are squeeze the trigger.  To correct the crawling up the rifle problem try and get more perpindular with the rifle. Try and raise the rifle up and off the bench table with sandbags, shooting bags, or rifle rest.  To correct the pulling back the rifle problem concentrate of squeezing the trigger with the pad of your finger. Too see how bad your flinch is, have someone who reloads make you a dummy load without a primer.  Take the dummy load and three live rounds and load them in the magazine, when you reach the dummy load you be able to see how severe your flinch is.


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