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Have any of you guys seen this:


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R-15 in 450 BushmasterWith precision accuracy, blazing-fast follow-ups and hunt-specific features, the Remington modular rifle revolution is taking North America by storm.  And there's plenty of thunder in our latest addition to the family, the Model R-15 in 450 Bushmaster .  Packing the big-bore wallop to knock any North American big game animal off its feet, this rifle also happens to be astonishingly lightweight and quick pointing. Read More


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same parent company as Bushmaster ..thus the same rifle as Bushmaster , but with  camo applied
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Is your interest the rifle or the cartridge?

As a fan of the "big bullet moving slow" school, there is some interest (versus the "small bullet moving really fast"), but ARs can be picky on ammo, and if the thing isn't really well suited to an AR, I would expect some improvements sooner rather than later.

I have not used a 450 or seen one, but it looks more useful than a 50 Beuwulf.


A few companies actually make a 50-cal, bolt-action upper for an AR lower.  It's not quite the same, but if "bigger is better", that too should be an option.
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neither really........ just got it in an email from Remington.  Not sure if I've seen the Bushmaster version or not.  Just thought I'd post it and see what all y'all thought.
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In my opinion, it falls under the heading of "can be done, but is it needed".


For some things, it'd be nice - but that list is short, again, in my opinion.

Then again, I am the idiot that just bought a 300 Whisper, so "needed" ain't exactly my guiding light.
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Socom and  bushmaster make really good "house guns", and have the ballistics of a downloaded 45/70, and reload with easily had 45/70 bullets. Bushmaster brass was really hard to get when it first came out, and socom was a little more popular. As Rc puts it really hard to put a reason on why someone would want them or the whisper-- - just there.

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After researching the "big bore" are for a long, long time, shooting the beowulf, and driving several hours to a place to shoot the 458 socom, i found one thing.  while they are fun to shoot and its exciting to do it.  BUT IT IS VERY, VERY expensive and they are picky too.  The AR platform  wasn't designed to feed reliable with that large of a round. IMO  If the ammo scarse ever ends or Alexander Arms releases the patent on the beowulf design so others can make ammo or components for the round, I may consider one but its just not practical  now for me at least.

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   I tried to get a R15 in 223 when they first came out, 7 months later I bought the Bushmaster Predetor no complaints. So if that is any indication of the availability of this one I would suggest just getting the Bushmaster. They are probably the exact same gun anyway except for the camo finish (same parent company), and Bushmasters have been out for a couple of years.
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cycling with the socom works great even with NFA lowers (on mine and all the ones at Get Some Guns and Ammo's shooting range in SLC), especially considering most of the 45 cal. bullets have large flat fronts. Cost per round if reloading runs about the same as making match 308, which of course is more than plinking 223

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I bet that is a rush, shooting a .458 in full auto.  Semi Auto
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the cycle rate is much slower than .233 around 350 to 400 because of the increased mass, and the mag capacity is around 10 (depends on the mag) in a 30 round 223, --short range materials interdiction.
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