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Dyelynn
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Posted: May/14/2012 at 14:51 |
I'm looking at a Swaro Z3 4-12x50 with the ballistic turret and am wondering if there are any other scopes in this price range, with similar top-end mag's that I should be considering?
the minox za-5 2-12 and 3-15x50 come to mind, as well as the new Leupy VX-6 2-12... what others am i overlooking? I'd like to compile a list so I can (hopefully) track them down for a hands-on viewing. for reference: general hunting on a 7mm rem mag, both wooded and open, rolling hills, shots from 25-300 yards. I have no reticle preference, but don't really need illumination, and I really like Swaro's BT system, but am open to ranging or bdc type reticles as well. Edited by Dyelynn - May/14/2012 at 16:42 |
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JGRaider
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I've been using a 7mag since 1975. Why do you feel the need for ballistic turrets when your stated max range is 300 yds? A Conquest, FX3, or VX3 will all work and do all you ever need to do.
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Dyelynn
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at the moment i have a vortex 2-7x32 on it.... i like the glass and the eyebox much better on that vortex than on the 2 redfield 3-9x40's i have (same glass as the vx-1 i think?), but i'd like more mag on the top end than either the x7 or the x9 have to offer... and i really don't like the 4.5-14 range that both the vx3 and the conquest offer. also, for the price of the 4.5-14 conquests or vx-3, i think i get a whole lot more scope for the additional ~2-300$ stepping up to the Swaro.
while i expect i'll very rarely, if ever, shoot at something beyond 300yards, i would very much like to be able to, with confidence in my equipment, if the need arises. there's a story from a few years ago about a ~500 yard shot on an elk... that's far from the norm where we hunt, but it is possible. spinning the dial on the swaro BT to a specific color representing 100 yard intervals is very simple and very appealing... compared to zeiss' calculator for their rapid-z reticles it's much simpler. i've heard good things about the nikon bdc as well. twice last year my scope failed me... in failing light i couldn't make out the spikes on a deer, so didn't shoot... and also in failing light, i wasn't able to accurately count the points on an elk. obviously just having a larger objective would help with both those examples, given the failing light aspect, but i'd also like more magnification. and, lastly... i want a better scope :p while i'd love to step up to the big boys, the only thing i can safely afford in the near future is the entry level alphas and the z3's i've handled were beautiful. I just wondered if there's something else i should consider in this price range, for these applications that i haven't so far considered. |
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stickbow46
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Zeiss Conquest Duralyt 2-8x42 without the illum will get you in at $999.95.You might also keep an eye on the SWFA Sample List,you can get some great deals there.
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Dyelynn
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i do watch the sample-list, and there's a z3 4-12x50 with BT there that i've been eyeballing. i'm sure that 2-8 would be a great scope, but as i said, i do want a little more mag on the upper end.. i understand that a better scope with less magnification might well be more clear at top mags, but something around 12x on the top is what i'm interested in. |
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ccoker
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I run a 280 AI which is very similiar to a 7mag
I ran a Zeiss FL 4-16x50 with AVS turret last season worked great! This year i will be using a VX-6 2-12 with illuminated LR duplex running a 140 Accubond at 3100 FPS and a 300 yard zero the dots below the center crosshair are spot on for 4 and 500 yards I have compared it against my Accupoint 3-9 and the above Zeiss it sits betwwen the two for glass and frankly is closer to the Zeiss they did a great job on it |
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Bitterroot Bulls
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I think you would be very happy with the Z3. May I recommend the BRH version rather than the dial version however? The reticle is subtended in mils at max power, and it is easy to dope your drops.
I think you would be very happy with the Z3.
BTW, I fully agree that the Reticle or Dial are not needed for 300 yard shooting with that caliber. It wouldn't hurt if you wanted to play around shooting longer ranges, though. |
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