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I have Remington M700 .308 that my Dad gave me.  It currently just has a cheap Bushnell on it that is 20+ years old in equally cheap see-through rings.

The rifle has always been very accurate, despite the less than ideal sighting, but I'm looking to upgrade that now.  In the past couple of years, the scope has become prone to fogging and the sight picture, while never great, seems to have gotten worse.  The scope still holds a zero, but that's about all I can say for it.

Anyway, I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money here.  This is a pure hunting rifle.  I'm not going to be doing any long range bench shooting or anything like that.  The rifle sees maybe 100 rounds a year through it.  My Dad shot it even less.  He'd had the rifle for 30 years and he said he'd be shocked if there had been 300 rounds through the barrel.  Most of my hunting will consist of shots of 100 yards or less and I wouldn't consider taking a shot over 300 yards.

So, I'm looking to spend the money accordingly.  If I shot it more, maybe I'd be willing to spend $300+ on a scope, but given the amount of use, I just can't justify it.  I'm definitely looking to stay under $200 here. 

In short, can I get a decent, reliable scope and mounts for under $200?  What would you suggest?
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For $200, you might be better off sticking with what you have.

The least expensive thing I could recommend is a Bushnell 3200 3-9X and that would run right at $200.  below that, fogging might be a problem, and the glass will not impress.

Take a picture of what you have and post it, it might be better than what your budget can replace.
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I don't have a picture, but it's a dirt cheap scope.  It's a Bushnell Sportview 3-9x32 I think.  Dad told me he just bought the scope as a temporary solution and always meant to upgrade it and just never got around to it.
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A Bushnell Legend is a nice scope and under your budget.  I have one and have been very happy with it.  Optically it is decent and it seems pretty tough for lower recoil rifles. 

Optically during the day time I cannot see much difference between this and my 4200s.  It does not have the rainguard, but I bet that makes up most of the difference in cost between it and the 3200. 

If you got this scope  http://swfa.com/Bushnell-3-9x40-Legend-Rifle-Scope-P1633.aspx
And these mounts.  http://swfa.com/Talley-Lightweight-Aluminum-1-Scopemount-P2834.aspx  with shipping you should be right at your budget and have a decent setup that will server you well.  Mine has been through many cold and damp mornings and has not fogged on me.
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For $200 you can get Sightron S2 3-9x42.

That will be much better than your old Bushnell.

Keep in mind that you should probably get better and lower rings instead of the see through ones.

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Pentax 3-9X40 Pioneer scope. Leupold Rifleman bases and rings. $162 includes shipping.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

For $200 you can get Sightron S2 3-9x42.

That will be much better than your old Bushnell.

Keep in mind that you should probably get better and lower rings instead of the see through ones.

ILya
 
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Well, I've been digging around and I think I may have come up with something.  What about this...

Nikon 3-9x40 Team Primos from the Sample List at $179.95

and these rings and bases...
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_95059____SearchResults?ordProd=Y&CMID=TOP_selectitems#itemDetail

Total comes to $202.89 before shipping

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That Nikon Team Primos from the samplelist is about as good a deal as you will find.

As for the rings, please do not post links to other retailers.  This website is owned by SWFA and they provide it to us for free.  The least we can do is not link their competitors.  I have edited your post accordingly.

As a separate matter, I am not well familiar with the Redhead brand, so I do not know much about it, but I have not heard anything good.  Generally, as far as rings go, it is best to go with more familiar brands.

For ease of use and reliability, it is hard to beat Talley rings.  A lot of folks here seem to really like them:

Personally, I am quite partial to Wrne rings and bases, but that will cost a bit more than Talleys.

The cheapest serviceable set would probably be Weaver Top Mount bases and rings, also available from SWFA.

ILya
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Sightron SII or Nikon Prostaff (SII is better).  If you can spare it, I'd suggest some Warne bases and the lesser expensive PRW rings.
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Millet Angle-Loc rings and weaver bases.  They provide windage adjustment, are inexpensive, and TOUGH. 
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Originally posted by linvillegorge linvillegorge wrote:

I have Remington M700 .308 that my Dad gave me. 
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Anyway, I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money here. 
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This is a pure hunting rifle.  I'm not going to be doing any long range bench shooting or anything like that. 
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Most of my hunting will consist of shots of 100 yards or less and I wouldn't consider taking a shot over 300 yards.
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In short, can I get a decent, reliable scope and mounts for under $200?  What would you suggest?
 
 
It meets every one of your critera, and will also be smaller & lighter than any of the variables listed.  This is one of the best values out there in all of scopeland, and it's a perfect fit with your short action Remington.
 
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  Here is a great value that should work for you; BSA Catseye 3.5-10x50 stock #fm3510x50 $59.95  Leupold base one piece stock#leu51732 $24.95,  Rings leupold standard Stock#49898 $24.95  Total cost $109.85 plus shipping all through SWFA.
 I have a couple catseye scopes on rifles that get little use and they are bright, clear, and hold their zero, I have not had a problem with any of them but on rifles that get more use and in turn more abuse I have higher quality glass.
 That being said I have a SS on order for a 7mm rem mag that I am hoping to use for long distance shooting ( here in Ct.300yard shoots are almost unheard of) on the rifle range.
 Call meLoco but I think it will work.
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A low quality 50mm obj. scope, on a short action rifle, for shots < 100 yards?  Really?

Ok, then, why?
 
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 He said for hunting and out to 300 yards. I went for light gathering for the dawn or dusk hunts. He also doesn't want to spend a lot of money, I could have gone with a 2009 model with a 44mm objective but it was $100 more which goes over his budget.
 He also stated not over 100 rounds a year so not much action or target shooting so why go with expensive glass, I also said I use better glass on rifles that get more use.
 Also said call me crazy but if you want something that will work on the cheap I think that works.
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I just wanted to see your reasoning.  Certainly that'd work.
 
My thinking is that he's willing to spend up to $200, so it makes sense to find him the best glass he can get for that price.  Because he's looking primarily to hunt, and not do targets, a fixed scope seems to be a good fit.  Additionally, a fixed scope will offer brighter optics than similarly pricied variables, and it will be tougher, too.  With most shots being < 100 yards, a fixed 2.5 would be just fine.  However, a 4x will make it more comfortable when stretching to 300 yards.  A case could also be made for a 6x, but he'd be giving up some FOV for the shorter shots.  Finally, since the .308 is a short action, I suggested a short, light scope for better handling.
 
In that price range, the usual 4X suspects are the SII, Burris FFII, Weaver, and Nikon Buckmaster.  There's not a horrible choice among them, but the SII gets an awful lot of high praise.  Any of them would be a noticeable upgrade from what he's got now.
 
If he could pony-up another $100 to $150, he'd be up in the Conquest, IOR, and FXII territory.  From the sound of it, though, he may well be quite content with the < $200 scopes.
 
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FC - the 4X is a great recommendation!
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Thanks for all the replies everybody!

I think I'm going to go with the Nikon Team Primos 3-9x40 off of the Sample List.  I think it's just too good of a deal at $180 to pass up.

Plus, it'll give me a lot more versatility than a fixed power scope.  The Nikon should more than fulfill anything I'll ever ask of the rifle.  By the time I get rings and bases, I'll be over my $200, but I shouldn't ever need to worry about buying a scope for this gun again.  Heck, if a cheapo Bushnell lasted for 20+ years, I'd sure hope this Nikon will carry me for at least that long.

Maybe one day I'll have a son that can worry about replacing it sometime down the line.
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Nothing wrong with a Primos!  Good shooting!
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Bushnell 3200 3x10x40 designed for short action rifles.  Under $200.  Has rainguard coating.
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Thanks for the help guys!  Ordered my Nikon Team Primos off of the Sample List from SWFA today!  It'll be here Friday!
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Originally posted by linvillegorge linvillegorge wrote:

Thanks for the help guys!  Ordered my Nikon Team Primos off of the Sample List from SWFA today!  It'll be here Friday!
 
Or that.
 
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