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That's one helluva nice buck, Roy!  When and where did you kill him?
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2001 in Mistatim Sask. I didn't really want to post that pic, but I probaly won't be going back with that outfitter. The son runs the operation now and he is somewhat difficult to get along with and he caters to people with lots more $$ if you know what I mean.  Downside is that there are alot of really big bucks in that area and I know for a fact that there are even bigger than the one in the pic I posted. It's cold as a MFer up there to boot. I've hunted in weather down to -26F degree's and that was at the height of the day.
 
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-26 is opening morning where i hunt from time to time, you just dress for it, helps that im used to the cold lived in it for almost 30yrs now i wouldnt know what to do without snow on the ground and the mercury around 0 during deer season.
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Well here's my .02. The partition bullets were designed for deep penetration of large game and still give decent expansion (something I read somewhere). I don't think accuracy was the prime concern of the design. I don't know how the bullet is made, but it seems to me that with the partition of jacket material between the two lead cores would be difficult to swage consistantly. There is to great of a chance for voids or varying jacket thickness, which could cause the of the bullet to vary from one side to another. This would cause the bullet to be out of balance as it spins in flight (like a tire out of balance) and have a negative effect on accuracy. This is my theory, and it may explain why you had a good group (everything was balanced), and why your other groups have negative preassure.
I think the partitions were intended for large tough skinned animals at ranges less than 200yds. Just my theory.
  
 

 Generally true, Beltfed.

 Even Nosler states that the Partition is usually not as accurate in most rifles as the Ballistic Tips, etc, although they don't normally go south as badly as they did in this case, either.

 

8shots  got either the first or last of a bad lot of bullets. You got a lot of rot in that lot and it don't agree with that riflePukersit not.

Hey 8shots you can sell those Noslers for shootin chargin buffabears or rinogators, jus tellum ta shootum up close so they get the full eefect.BS%20Flag

Except for my 458 Lott, I have used Nosler Patitions in every rifle I have. Always good grouping, but as you said, not as good as the ballistic tips. Really rough on a deer's pump station, too. Never fired one at anything, other than paper, beyond 120yds, though.
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Nosler Partitions are made to kill stuff, not punch holes in paper!  Bottom Line!
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Nosler Partitions are made to kill stuff, not punch holes in paper!  Bottom Line!
 

 

 

 

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Confucious says, in order to kill stuff, you must be able to hit stuff.

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It is unfortunate that your rifle hates those Noslers so much, 8shots!  At least you have something that works.  My .280 won't shoot those blasted 100% copper boattails just like yours won't shoot the Noslers.  But Noslers are like triple chocolate for it.  Just gobbles them up with 1/2" groups with 150 gr. Federal Premiums.
 
Sounds like you have more than one rifle, so try them on another, and you will probably have better luck.  I know how frustrating it can be to spend all of that time and effort on a load and come up with crap groups.
 
For myself, I have never had a problem with them, and nothing ever ran away where it could not be found.  No, they do not generally shoot as well as ballistic tips, which may be the best low cost bullet for thin skinned game ever made.  No slam intended to the Hornady fans.  Those Interlocks are good too.
 
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           8shots,
            I've come across two posts on two different forums about diameter problems with Nosler Partition bullets. One post was about .243 Partitions that measured less than .243 and the other post was about .277 Partitions that measured more than .277.  Were not talking one caliber size less  and one caliber size more,just not the right diameter for those specific calibers. If you still have those Partitions maybe you should measure the diameter. If there is a size problem I would say yours are less than they should be. Your problem just has me stumped.
 
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I have some left, and will check, for interest sake.
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Another point that may make a difference, is that I have been using the Combined Technology bullets, in moly free.  The actual construction of the Partition is slightly different 
and although I could see no difference in the construction of the ballistic tip, there may have been a change in the Quality Control aspect for both of them.
 
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Even though some bullets have a better reputation for accuracy than others (and the Partition is not known for its accuracy as much as its terminal performance), the bottom line is there's no bullet made that is guaranteed to shoot well in any given rifle.  There's no way around the fact that all rifles are different and you have to experiment to see what shoots well in your rifle and go with what works.
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Not that this is any answer to 8's accuracy problems, but American Rifleman TV did an article in this weeks show on Nosler's manufactoring facility.
Looking at a sectioned bullit, I realized that the partition bullit suffers the same problem as a full metal jacket bullit. The base of the bullit is exposed lead and has inconsistancess which can effect accuracy. This may not be the sole reason for the large groups, but it may be another part of the puzzle.
Nosler designed the partition after shooting a moose at close range 3 times before he brought it down due to lack of penitration.
 
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Confucious says, in order to kill stuff, you must be able to hit stuff.

 
Well, Confucious must have been a bad marksman. As RifleDude stated Partitions are designed for terminal performance first. That said, I haven't run across a situation where I couldn't get them to shoot good enough for hunting accuracy. If you can get them to shoot into 1.5 moa or less at 100 yrds, you have plenty of accuracy for big game hunting, IMO.
 
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Confucious says, in order to kill stuff, you must be able to hit stuff.

 
Well, Confucious must have been a bad marksman. As RifleDude stated Partitions are designed for terminal performance first. That said, I haven't run across a situation where I couldn't get them to shoot good enough for hunting accuracy. If you can get them to shoot into 1.5 moa or less at 100 yrds, you have plenty of accuracy for big game hunting, IMO.
 
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Ditto yet again.
 
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I have meaured the Nosler bullets and come to 0.311 inches.
 
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Confucious says, in order to kill stuff, you must be able to hit stuff.

 
Well, Confucious must have been a bad marksman. As RifleDude stated Partitions are designed for terminal performance first. That said, I haven't run across a situation where I couldn't get them to shoot good enough for hunting accuracy. If you can get them to shoot into 1.5 moa or less at 100 yrds, you have plenty of accuracy for big game hunting, IMO.
 
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I have meaured the Nosler bullets and come to 0.311 inches.
 
 You have any friends who own a .303 British or a 91/30 Mosin-Nagant?
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I have meaured the Nosler bullets and come to 0.311 inches.
 
 You have any friends who own a .303 British or a 91/30 Mosin-Nagant?
 
.303 British yes. Why? These bullets right for them?
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 They vary  a bit, but most bullet manufacturers list either .311" or .312" for the Brits and I believe .310" and .311" for the Russians. My No.4 Mk 2 British slugs out at .314" groove diameter, but it shoots .311" Sierras very well. There is a Canadian outfit that sells specialty bullets in sizes up to .315"  for oversize Brit bores such as mine, but I haven't tried them out yet.
 
Edited to correct a decimal place error and to add info.


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Confucious must have used Berger VLD's...........<g>
 
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    .311 bullets in a .308 barrel?  Anyone else besides me believe this may not be conducive to good accuracy?
 
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I have meaured the Nosler bullets and come to 0.311 inches.
 
 
Probably just being anal, but next time try using bullets designed for a 308 bore. Amazing stuff happens when all is equal.
 
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wtf?? how did you squeeze .311 bullets down a .308 tube??
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