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    Posted: April/27/2008 at 11:14
The best target to use for Nosler partitions is the round circle made by the rubbish bin. Take careful aim and toss them inside and quickly shut the lid. Do not stand to far away because you may miss the bin!!!!
After taking a year to try developing a load for my 300 H&H, using 200 gr Nosslers, I have dumped them in disgust in the bin. Take a look at the target I shot yesterday. I used the exact, yes exact as in everything the same, as my previous  last load which showed a decent group. I fired 4 x 5 round groups. They all look equally sick.
I was supposedly doing my final 5 round check for my upcoming hunt. The bullets went all over the show. So I took another 5, and another 5, and another 5.......All with the same disgusting result....
I went home, loaded up some 200gr Sierra Gameking. Same rifle, same powder, same scope setting, same shooter... See the difference.
Noslers are absolute crap. I have tried everything. So yes, whatever you want to suggest, are thinking of suggesting and have not yet thought of suggesting, the answer is yes, I have tried it. Out of my rifle, Nossler part will never ever shoot straight and will never ever even come near me or my rifle again..
 
 
 
 
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The web seems to have a problem for pics will try again to post pics
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One down two to go,,,,,,
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8shots, thats a pretty strong statement to make about the Nosler partition bullets.  Obviously your rifle does not like the partitions, and I've heard simular statements from others that the partition can be finicky.  The main thing, is  that you have found a bullet your rifle likes and I truely agree with using 200gr. bullets in the .30 magnums.  I'm sure your well aware of this but,  I believe you're going to catch some grief from the nosler fans, let the battle begin.

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I am still trying to post the results from the 200gr Sierra gameking. Lucytuma, after a year of struggling to get Nosslers to work, I feel I am well qualified to offer my opinions. How they work on game I have no idea, as I never got beyond trying to get them to group so that I could go hunting with them.
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I agree with you 100%, I think its great that you've voiced your opinion and have proof to back it up.  I do not have any experience with any of the partition bullets be it nosler or swift.  I usually chose heavy for caliber bullets from sierra, hornady and remington, just my logic be it wrong or right.
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I am still trying to post the results from the 200gr Sierra gameking. Lucytuma, after a year of struggling to get Nosslers to work, I feel I am well qualified to offer my opinions. How they work on game I have no idea, as I never got beyond trying to get them to group so that I could go hunting with them.
 
 With all due respect, I feel that you are well qualified to offer your opinion regarding how accurate 200 grain Partitions are in your particular rifle.
 You are not yet qualified to state that "Nosler Partitions are absolute crap", as you did in your  opening post.
 
 You know better than that, 8-shots!
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if you have accuracy problems with other bullets of course sierra is the answer, im not sure how they will do on game compared to the partion, i am a pretty confident in sierra bullets for north american game, im not willing to say that about african game though if i were you i would certainly try the nosler accubonds in that rifle.
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I have an 8-foot-plus brown bear mounted in my den that would disagree with you about the accuracy and effectiveness of Nosler partitions (if he could).  
 
The 200 grain bullet just doesn't happen to work in your particular rifle.   (The 180 grain might be worth a try.)
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I am still trying to post the results from the 200gr Sierra gameking. Lucytuma, after a year of struggling to get Nosslers to work, I feel I am well qualified to offer my opinions. How they work on game I have no idea, as I never got beyond trying to get them to group so that I could go hunting with them.
 
 With all due respect, I feel that you are well qualified to offer your opinion regarding how accurate 200 grain Partitions are in your particular rifle.
 You are not yet qualified to state that "Nosler Partitions are absolute crap", as you did in your  opening post.
 
 You know better than that, 8-shots!
I still cannot post the pics of 200gr SGK, but will keep trying.
 
Post a target shot with Nosler Partitions, and a target shot with any other brand of "normal" bullets, such as SGK, Hornady, etc. Same bullet weight, same everything, then depending on the result, I will re-track my statement.
As for the bear and many other animals, I have no doubt they perform very well in that department. That was my very reason for wanting to use them in the first place.
The funny thing is there was a guy with a bullet trap at the range. He was checking bullet expansion. I shot a Nossler into the box. We never found the bullet! So either I totally missed the trap (at 50 yds!! although the guy said he clearly saw the box take the hit), or the bullet whistled out of the open top. It did not go straight through, as there were no exit holes. The trap cosists of rubber shavings, wood shavings and then a foot of sand. All his 30-06 rounds were recovered.


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Try again:
 
 
 


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And this is how the same Noslers shot 6 weeks earlier. same batch, same everything. I had my batch loaded for hunting and was happy. Went on Sat with same batch, to do one final check. The rounds went all over the show. I shot the whole batch away. Not one 5 shot group performed. We do not have extreme weather conditions etc, so weather is not a factor. The bullets all came out the same box. I waited 1 min in between each shot etc.
So I am stumped with Noslers.


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i know this is going to sound silly but, is there anything loose on your rifle???
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HMMMMM!!!!!!! This is very interesting 8. I would think that there would be little if any problem, just goes to show that not every rifle likes what other rifles will shoot very well. Find the golden round for your rifle and work from there. 
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Pyro, the 5 shots with the Nosler (first target) was shot with the scatter effect. I came home, loaded the SGK and shot the next two targets. Same rifle, same scope setting, etc. So if anything was loose, the SGK was shot with the same loose things. I have since checked all mounts and screws, including rifle action screws, nothing is loose.
 
And if I am coming on a bit strong.....I have worked on these Noslers, 1/10 of gr of powder at a time, from 63 gr all the way up, OCL  in 1/1000 of an inch at a time etc So about $250 and many range visits later, the above target happens. Man, was I upset.....
 
(Ronk, this is the closest I am coming right now at withdrawing my earlier statement about Noslers)


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         8shots,
          Get in touch with Nosler! Their always interested in feed back from customers and may be able to add something that's being overlooked.
 
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I am still trying to post the results from the 200gr Sierra gameking. Lucytuma, after a year of struggling to get Nosslers to work, I feel I am well qualified to offer my opinions. How they work on game I have no idea, as I never got beyond trying to get them to group so that I could go hunting with them.
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Man I'm I hate your gun didn't like them. It happens!!! That’s what all the fun is about trying to get stuff to work. I know you tried everything. After all the PM's you and I had. I know there is nothing you could have done to get that bullet to shoot right. I know for a fact we/you tried everything. I would just stay with what works.

 

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300S&W, I have given Nosler the facts as per your suggestion.
 
BigDaddy, I knew you would be dissapointed to, because you helped me a lot. I just do not understand it, but for my own sanity I am going to let the Noslers go.
I am hunting in a months time, and need to practise some shooting, not develop a load. The SGK has allways worked for me, and brought the trophies home. So I will stick with them. My hunting buddy also uses the 200 gr SGK in a 300H&H. He shot a 3 shot group that he could cover with a dime.
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

300S&W, I have given Nosler the facts as per your suggestion.
 
BigDaddy, I knew you would be dissapointed to, because you helped me a lot. I just do not understand it, but for my own sanity I am going to let the Noslers go.
I am hunting in a months time, and need to practise some shooting, not develop a load. The SGK has allways worked for me, and brought the trophies home. So I will stick with them. My hunting buddy also uses the 200 gr SGK in a 300H&H. He shot a 3 shot group that he could cover with a dime.
 

I have thought and thought about it and there is nothing that we haven't tried with them to get them to shoot. I'm probably like you and would just toss them and go with what works. I mean after a year and we still can get them to be consistent as they once was with the few groups we had I honestly think you rifle doesn’t like them. The good groups we did have wasn't anything to write home about. So go kill something we gave it the old colleges try.

 

 

 
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