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yes i'm looking to spend about $175 on a new scope for my 30-06 i shot anywhere from 100yard -300yard i would like to know what would be the best brand for the $$$ that has rangefinding  illuminated reticle  muller, zeiss, A1 optic, atn, ncstar, leaper, IOR, nikko, supersniper any of them
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Is the illuminated reticle worth another $100?
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i can find some for around 150 i just don't know how good they are
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The only one I know of is the mueller, which is a very good scope for the money.  Has drawbacks, but everything in this price range will.
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is  there anything wrong with the other ones i really like the A1 and ncstar
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Nikon Buckmaster.....The best scope for the money....period!

  

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dose anyone know anything about the A1 Optic scope
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Cheaptrick, does the buckmaster have an illuminated reticle?

oldfashion, I don't have any experience with the A1 or ncstar.  Is an illuminated reticle a must-have?

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ya i would like it   if it don't have that i would one rangefinder crosshairs
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Simmons 44 Mag 6.5x20x44 would that be a good one to put on a 30-06
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Originally posted by ajlandis ajlandis wrote:

Cheaptrick, does the buckmaster have an illuminated reticle?

 

Negative.

But, they do offer a mil dot if your interested.

 

 

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Close to your price range and with a holdover reticle is the Burris FFII.  Most of the scopes you mention are chinese crap.  There is no Zeiss scope anywhere near your price range.

 

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Oldfashion, you kind of make it hard to give many suggestions.  So, you want a mercedes with a kia price tag?

Can you list, in order, what features are most important to you?  Brightness, clarity, magnification, quality, durability, illumination, price, rangefinding, size, etc. 

I have a 44 mag in 3-10.  They are ok, but you can do much better.  I wouldn't put one on a .30-06, and I sure wouldn't deer hunt with a 6.5-20.

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I prefer to keep it simple. You say shootiung 300 meters or less. A 4 power scope is great for that, gives a great field of vision. I would get a fixed 4 power scope, 40 mm bell. 50 mm bells are over rated. It's about exit pupil. 40 mm allows you to sit the scope closer to the barrel. I would zero my scope at 300 meters. Many loads will allow you to shoot pretty much dead on at 260- 275 meters. You can hold under an inch or two if you wish, and you can determine whats best at your local range. Set the zero which at those short ranges will allow you to shoot pretty much dead on for the kill zone at your typical ranges you wil be shooting at.

 

I live in the Southwest where good light is pretty much a given. Ask your self how many times  you been out and when you had a shot was  there was a problem with light levels and the reticle. Be careful of illuminated reticles some are very wide and thin reticles can be expensive. Often not worth the money.

 

Mil dots for hunting are a waste of money, are you going to make the calculations and dial in the firing solution. No, in your range your going to have coin turrets anyway. Mildots only clutter up the sight picture.

 

Just my opinion. Keep it simple. Remember military snipers generally shoot 10 power fixed scopes, what do you plan on seeing at 200 meters in a 20 power scope, not much.

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i want a scope kinda like PPO 4-16x50 F Military Sniper II Series Rifle Scope made by Kalinka Optics

 

 

nikko scopes anygood

 

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Do you have any expience with PPO scopes?  I bought one a while ago and it was most definitely a waste of money.  WIth optics you generally get what you pay for.

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$175-$200 is the most i can spend

the one thing i want most of all it Illuminated MIL-DOT reticle

good to shot up to 300yards good fast focus

 

 

something like these http://www.leapers.com/pages/optics/mil-dot%20scope.htm

 

 

 

 

BARSKA any good

 

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The scopes you are looking at are absolute crap and you will not be happy with the performance.  For under $200, you need to be looking at the Burris FFII, Bushnel Elite 3200, Nikon Buckmaster or for slight less one of the new Simmons Master Series. 

 

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so i need to stick with my bushnell banner 6-18x50mm dusk and dawn scope until i can pay 200-300 for one
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The scopes that I listed above all can be had for under $200 in 3-9x40, which is just about ideal for a .30-06.

 

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If you abolutley must have an illuminated mil-dot reticle, the only half-ass reasonable choice in your price range is Mueller 4-16x50. 

 

If you can forgo the gimmicks (and if you do not shoot long range a Mil_Dot reticle is absolutely useless on a 30-06), the best scope for $200 is SIghtron S2 3-9x42 followed by Burris Fullfield II, Elite 3200 and Nikon Buckmaster.  The jury is still out on Simmons Master series since noone has seen them yet.

 

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how good are atn and A1 optic
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ATN seems to have decent glass, but mechanical assembly problems.

 

A1 optic scopes have only appeared recently on the web (Ebay).  The best I can tell these are piece of sh1t, cheap Chinese scopes of the same ilk as NcStar, Leapers, Famous Maker, etc. 

 

When I first got into scopes I bought a bunch of them.  They are uniformly crappy.

 

As a general note, stay away from cheap illumination systems.  The one A1 optic uses will only kill your night vision. 

 

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Oldfashion, there are not that many good scopes for the kind of money that you are willing to spend.  They have all been listed here.  You keep pulling out gimmicky scopes.  Suffice to say that any quality scope with all the bells and whistles that you are looking for will cost significantly more than this price range.  If you find a scope with all of these gadgets for under $200, it will be chinese crap.  It is simply not possible to get a quality scope with these features for the money you are talking.

 

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Trijicon TR20R Accupoint 3x9-40 Riflescope are good right they are only 500

or should i spend my money one something else i'll have to get the scope when i get back from basic

 

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