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i am looking at getting a new rifle for elk hunting in eastern Oregon, i currently have a tikka t3 lite 270 Winchester, i shoot a 140 accubond round that i am pretty sure would be good enough to take down an elk, but if not can i get some recommendations as to what i should get, i am not the biggest guy so i more than likely will not want something that is going to kick like a mule. 
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It's certainly not how BIG you are that matters in what rifle you use.  It is how you put all the pieces of "riflemanship" together.  My max weight is 162lbs, after my recent "trip", I'm weighing in at about 150, sometimes in the 147 range.  I hunt with a .458 Lott and regularly shoot an 18lb .50BMG rifle.  I just ordered a .338 Lapua Magnum for a "fun gun".  One of my most common hunting rifles is 7mmSTW.  You don't need a max loaded cartridge for every sitiuation.  While I have hunted whitetail deer with .458Lott and WinMag 500gr DG loads, it is not necessary... so I'm using 350gr bullets loaded to 2000fps for the Lott.  Elk... 30-06 180-220gr is outstanding, 150gr will certainly work. 
.270 is not a caliber I like... I just don't, but a lot of elk have been taken with it.  Some people love it and swear by it. 
Don't let your size determine what you hunt with... try some different calibers and let your ability be the "judge". 
I like the .458 Lott... guaranteed to knock down anything that walks on the planet...
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You are a funny guy Kb,a458 lott for whitetail is called grape shot [:}
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

You are a funny guy Kb,a458 lott for whitetail is called grape shot [:}

dont laugh i use a .375H&H myself.
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Originally posted by dezmick dezmick wrote:

i am looking at getting a new rifle for elk hunting in eastern Oregon, i currently have a tikka t3 lite 270 Winchester, i shoot a 140 accubond round that i am pretty sure would be good enough to take down an elk, but if not can i get some recommendations as to what i should get, i am not the biggest guy so i more than likely will not want something that is going to kick like a mule. 
 
 
I bet that Tikka T3 Lite already kicks like a mule......don't they weigh something like six pounds??    If you can shoot that, you are prepared for anything.....   
 
Try a 300 Winchester Magnum.......borrow one and shoot one first before spending a bunch of money....
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....oh, I forgot.......go look at used rifles at a gun store and find one that you really like that doesn't cost $800.......    Bucky       That would be the best gun for under $800       
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im super impressed with my wby vanguard.
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Steyr-mannlicher SBS or 96...
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Hard to beat the wby vanguard! also look at the tikka hunter. +1 on the 300wm`
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The only two rifles I would consider would be a Tikka T3  or a Savage.  I prefer stainless with a detachable magazine. As for caliber the .270 will do the job but if you want more gun I think you are talking about either a 300 Win Mag or 300 WSM or if you can tollerate the recoil a .338 Win Mag which is typically the choice of Alaska hunters.  The .338 WM retains a tremendous amount of energy at long distance and is a fine choice well able to take very large game even a long range. Now having said that many is the elk that has been killed with .243  7mm08  308  30-06 25-06 and the .270 which you already own.   With any of these cartridges it is about what bullet and where you place the bullet.  I would want one loaded with a Barnes bullet and Federal as well as several others use the Barnes TSX which is a copper hollowpoint. Using a .270 and really good ammo will do the job at reasonable distances and I would suggest inside 400 yds for that. Out past that you would truely be better off with a larger heavier bullet that retains more energy.  I have a friend who was an Army Sniper instructor and he kills elk every year with a .270 so its more about shot pacement and quality ammo than which caliber. 
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm  rifle recoil compared by caliber
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More about shot placement than it is about caliber.  If you shoot well with the .270 you should be fine. If you just want a new gun, "not that it's a bad thing to have that addiction" get something a bit heavier than the T3 lite or one of the auto loaders from Remington. "staying in your budget"

I'm in the same weight class as Kick Boxer, and have a Browning 7mm mag BAR that I don't dread shooting. "well it's a buck a pop so I still dread the cost, but recoil is not an issue"


I saw a nice red stag taken with a 150 grain Hornady bullet from a .308  Skinning the animal it looked like a grenade hit it. Wasn't a full broadside presentation, and the bullet went into a lung on one side and stuffed part of the lung into the shoulder socket on the other side. Gruesome! 


Use a good bullet and place it well. You'll have no troubles.

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

You are a funny guy Kb,a458 lott for whitetail is called grape shot [:}

dont laugh i use a .375H&H myself.
And I just got one of those... I needed a squirrel rifle...
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If you like the .270 just take it on your elk hunt.  My uncle kills his bulls every year (it is something like 30 years straight) with his .270 and 130 corelokts, and they drop dead on the first shot.  The 140 accubond will do it without trouble.

That said, if you WANT another gun just go ahead and get one.  Any of the .300 magnums are classic elk cartridges.
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

You are a funny guy Kb,a458 lott for whitetail is called grape shot [:}

dont laugh i use a .375H&H myself.
And I just got one of those... I needed a squirrel rifle...

it will fill that need wellExcellent
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

You are a funny guy Kb,a458 lott for whitetail is called grape shot [:}

dont laugh i use a .375H&H myself.
And I just got one of those... I needed a squirrel rifle...
 
 
I would sure hate to meet one the squirrels in your area!!!Shocked
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Originally posted by Hatari Hatari wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

You are a funny guy Kb,a458 lott for whitetail is called grape shot [:}

dont laugh i use a .375H&H myself.
And I just got one of those... I needed a squirrel rifle...
 
 
I would sure hate to meet one the squirrels in your area!!!Shocked

pssh you ought to see the raccoons!!


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That 270 will do the job for sure if you can do yours. If you just want another gun, look at a 300 win mag, similar trajectories in standard bullet weights. I have both and would use either for elk. I'm using the 270 this weekend for deer and next month for elk. Good luck with your choice, cant go wrong.

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I own 3 Tikkas (no weatherbys), hard to beat a Tikka for quality and accuracy.

I have a T3 lite in 270, it kicks but is very accurate.  I also had a 300WM in T3 lite, it kicked harder but hit MUCH harder downrange.

My elk gun is a 300WM, plenty of power, plenty of accuracy, all around great field gun.

The Tikka T3 Lite camo is under $800 and is a fantastic package, near perfect elk gun, in my opinion.
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I bought my used sendero SFII for 500 in .300 win mag from a guy i work with, and if you could find one for under 800, that would be a great purchase. I also work with a friend that has a T3, and he swears by it, so it must be good for a kid that has graduated the army sniper course. Can't go wrong. I'll agree its all about shot placement. Elk hide isnt too tough for a .270 though. Another round that would be good is the 7mm rem mag. Just a few options.
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Why not step up to the 150 GR NOSLER PARTITION or even the 160 GR NOSLER PARTITION if your concerned about penetration? Personally I love the .270, It's fast and flat compared to heavy .30 CALs. Not sure what North American game couldn't be taken with it. Obviously it doesn't retain enough energy to be a 1000 Yard sniper rifle, like the big heavy belted magnums (.338 Win Mag for example), but for a all around hunting rifle I think it's top notch!
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I own 3 Tikkas (no weatherbys), hard to beat a Tikka for quality and accuracy.

I have a T3 lite in 270, it kicks but is very accurate.  I also had a 300WM in T3 lite, it kicked harder but hit MUCH harder downrange.

My elk gun is a 300WM, plenty of power, plenty of accuracy, all around great field gun.

The Tikka T3 Lite camo is under $800 and is a fantastic package, near perfect elk gun, in my opinion.

you should  try a vanguard once, you might like it.
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Hard to beat the 30-06 for versatility.
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