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looking for a new scope low light performance 100yd-200yd  for deer hunting and big game

zeiss conquest 1" usa 4.5-14x50

zeiss vm/v " german 5-15x42

swarovski professional hunter 4-16x50

I have a nikon monarch 3.5-10x50 ill are the other scopes a big improvement over what i have don't mind the money

if these would be a big improvement again LOW LIGHT is the most important

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The two things which help low light performance is glass and objective size vs. the lowest possible magnification.

Nikon makes good product but my feeling is there optics for cameras relys on film sensitivity vs. there rifle scopes that don't take account for the human eye factors. (This ain't a slam but just my opinion) I work in the photo industry and even in this industry the Germans are top notch for glass.

 

Anyway...

 

My vote would be for a lower magnification in the 3-10 or perhaps 3-12 and a objective in the 42 to 50mm range. Manufactures I would recommend would be Swaro, Kahles, Zeiss or S&B. IMHO Zeiss or S&B on the top of the list....

 

 

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Low light sensitivity could better be called backround contrast, which is the real problem. Not including the magnification it is impossible to answer the question. Would the highest mag. of any (within its range) scope that still gives an exit pupil of 5mm satisfy you? As the FOV lessens as the mag. increases the background contrast decreases. this is were the Schmidt and Bender fans and Kahles etc. come running forward with their advocates. It is probably the case that these scopes if they are better, in this situation have been able to dampen internally reflected light better than say a Tasco. Who cares what the reason you say if it works. Usually backing off in the magnification range solves a lot of problems. say a fixed 6. Is a Schmidt and Bender variable on 6 power better at this task? Boy for the price it better be. Get a Nikon fixed 6 or even better a Leo 6 44mm and have some fun.
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A Nikon Monarch has pretty darn good light transmission.  And it hardly has poor baffling.  Whether or not those other scopes are better in low light I cannot say.  So why I am bothering to pipe in here?

 

Well in low light you lose the reticle before you actually stop seeing in the better scopes which would include the Nikon.   Thicker crosshairs help alot.  But not nearly so much as illuminated reticles.  Since the others don't have an illuminated reticle and can only be a little bit if any better in light transmission, I find it unlikely they would be much better in actual use during low light.  The riflescope is more than a telescope it is also for aiming.  With the illuminated reticle you can aim until you can no longer see.

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bhaven,

 

I own all three of the scopes you listed above.

 

The Conquest is a great scope, top of my recommendation list for a mid-price scope - a great all-around, do everything scope for the money.  However, it is not in the same class as the VM-V or the Swaro Hunter.  I live part-time on Europe and do a lot of evening hunting, and on those occasions use only VM-V 50mm glass.  The Swaro is also top class and has wonderful light transmission, but I give the VM-V a very slight edge.  You can't go wrong with either one.  Good luck,

 

edit:  sorry I didn't see the Nikon listed at first, have not used one so I can't comment on it.



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