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    Posted: November/03/2010 at 21:26
The Leupy FX-6x42 is the obvious choice. This scope has the specs I am looking for. Is there another fixed power with near the same objective size but with better glass than the leupy?
 
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IOR 6X
S&B 6X
Zeiss 6X
 
All of the above have much better glass than the 6X loopy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/04/2010 at 01:35
Zeiss does not currently import a fixed 6x scope into the US.

However, both IOR and S&B have appreciably better optical quality than the Leupold.

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I have a Zeiss 6x42 with #4 reticle I purchased from the UK and it is spectacular.
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You said best which would indicate high quality w/o regard to price but If value comes into play then Sightron makes a SII 6x as well as Burris in their fullfield line. Both are pretty solid scopes at a mid/low price point.
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Don't forget the new SS 6X  its probably the toughest 6x on the market for the price its in.

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Still don't see how y'all make several hundred yard shots with these.? Mad props
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Its not a far as you think. can you use iron sites and hit at 100yds?   then you could use a 10x at 1000.  its the same thing.

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Its not a far as you think. can you use iron sites and hit at 100yds?   then you could use a 10x at 1000.  its the same thing.


I'm an avid bow hunter, I shoot from a distance I feel comfortable. I would never shoot at a deer from 50 yards away because then your looking at a slight delay and wind issues. I'd rather pass on that shot than risk wounding an animal. Same concept. If I'm going to be shooting at a target, ok 6x I'll give it a shot. If I'm shooting at a deer 500 yards a way I want to be able to see the exact patch of fur versus just shooting at a body
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Everyone has to have a comfort zone and I'm glad you know yours.  Once you practice on the target a few hundred times I am sure you would be confident to take a deer then. 

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Everyone has to have a comfort zone and I'm glad you know yours.  Once you practice on the target a few hundred times I am sure you would be confident to take a deer then. 


Maybe one day, I'm only 23, got alot of time to figure it out
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its not about age its about how long you've been shooting and how much you practice
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

its not about age its about how long you've been shooting and how much you practice

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Anyone who has ever bow hunted has spent time tracking arrowed deer.  I shoot most of my deer with a bow but just like with a bow if you practice with a rifle and scope and become proficient with it then over time you will see your skill level improve. I've taken 60 yd shots with a bow and had them not get 50 yds, and Ive shot deer at several hundreds with a rifle and had them drop right there.  I've also trailed deer for miles that were arrowed at 20 yds.  If you shoot deer in the neck with a rifle you either have a dead deer or a clean miss when using a rifle.  I am extremely comfortable shooting deer with a musket at 200 yds and I have refrained from shooting some truely trophy deer with that same musket that were out past 300 yds so knowing your level of proficiency and your choice of tool is important.  With rifles there are basically two ways to determine with a reasonable degree of accuracy where the bullet will be at a specific distance. One is to have a balistic reticle the other is to dial in correction with target / tactical knobs.  True accuracy depends on many factors being consistent. Most rifles will perform their best with a particular weight of bullet based on what the twist rate of the barrel is cut at so some rifles will be more accurate with lighter bullets some with heavier. The path of the bullet or trajectory is an arc where the bullet like any other object that is dropped falls to earth at the rate of 32 ft per second per second. How far away from you the bullet hits the earth depends on how fast it is going and the angle up or down.  Very fast bullets will go a long way in a fraction of a second that it takes to fall to earth. This is visually observable when you shoot an arrow. There are balistics calculators and information available but you need to test the info on the range to know what to expect.

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Those fixed 6s are nice all around scopes.  I have the 6x SS and it is pretty darn good, optically, and has miles of elevation adjustment.  You don't have to baby it, either.  Its downside is it is no lightweight.  I would feel pretty comfortable with it's magnification out to 600 or 700 yards.  I currently use it on a rimfire to 200 yards, but I think it may see a SPS tactical in the near future.

I don't know how beneficial the elite german glass in a riflescope is when you are at such a low magnification.  The Leupy, Sightron, or SS 6s should give better than useable performance.  It seems that high magnification shows bigger gains in performance with premium glass.
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Originally posted by trjones87 trjones87 wrote:

Still don't see how y'all make several hundred yard shots with these.? Mad props



   You need to go to a blackpowder ctg. shoot and watch those guys shoot steel rams at 300 to 600 meters with their sharps equipped with tang sights. Having said that I too think there is a limit to where you should shoot at flesh and bone from an ethics stand point. Shooting long range from a solid rest over a known distance after several sight in shots is a lot different than shooting under field conditions where the 1st shot has to be in the x ring. There is an interesting article on long range shooting in the current "Sporting Classics " magazine.
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I talked to Josh at SWFA to see if he could get me more info, availabilty and price on the Zeiss 6x42 T scope that someone recomended. this scope will be going on a 20 inch barreled custom ranch gun that I want to be a fast handling and shooting bolt action. I will post about the Zeiss when I know more.
 
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Very good choice Charlie,it will git er doneSmile
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