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Here's something to think about, times are hard so if you wanted someone to build your dream rifle using your action, who do you think would give you the best bang for your buck?
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 Sam think about buying a Savage, Then you can swap out barrels all day long, it takes all of twenty minutes to do. Then you can go to the range and shoot different calibers with one set up.
 If you want to save even more money pick up a Stevens(same as Savage) put in a good trigger and go to town using any barrel you want.
 Join the brotherhood of the barrel nut and you will never return. CAUTION IT IS ADDICTING.
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I also think a savage action would provide the best bang per buck, though I still believe it would be fairly expensive.  I think ER Shaw is doing some simi-custom rifles off this action?
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I guess my question didn't come out rightEmbarrased what I meant to say was if you wanted that custom build who could build your dream gun at a best value for your dollar?
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You're looking for a custom gunsmith I take it? What action are we talking about also.

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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

You're looking for a custom gunsmith I take it? What action are we talking about also.
Yes Sir, someone who will do excellent work for a fair price on either a Remington Model 700 or a Winchester Model 70.
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How much are you looking at spending and what do you want in the end? Hunting rig, precision tack driver, ???
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

I also think a savage action would provide the best bang per buck, though I still believe it would be fairly expensive.  I think ER Shaw is doing some simi-custom rifles off this action?
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Originally posted by SamC SamC wrote:

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

You're looking for a custom gunsmith I take it? What action are we talking about also.

Yes Sir, someone who will do excellent work for a fair price on either a Remington Model 700 or a Winchester Model 70.
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If you are talking about building a rifle from the action on out there are lots of good gunsmiths who can build an accurate rifle on a 700 action as they are about the the easiest to rebarrel and make shoot very accurately. The model 70, on the other hand requires more work to smooth up and true along with proper trigger tuning. People will argue to death that a mod. 70 can be made to shoot as accurately as a mod 700, but the fact is that it is a lot cheaper to get there with a 700 than the mod 70. The 700 has more aftermarket goodies available than any other rifle action I can think of as well.
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I don't know. All the custom makers are making stuff for millionaires.....
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From having just did a Win 70 build i would suggest against it.
1- parts are not that abundant
2- parts when you find them are spendy
3- few smiths will touch them
4- ( I wanna be the only one with one) lol
 
Just kidding about #4 but if it weren't for sentimental reasons i would have stuck with a 700 for a build.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

I don't know. All the custom makers are making stuff for millionaires.....
That's the problem, when you look at most price sheets today you'd think they are building the space shuttle! I'm just talking about building a nice accurate rifle to hunt with.
Sam
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I have to keep speakin up for Keiger. They will build the barrel you want, true it to your action and send you something that you will always enjoy. No gunsmith middle man envolved unless you just want one. You can keep things simple and low cost or go all out and they can accomidate. Their wait time isn't as long as it has been. But any wait with Kreiger is worth it. Good Luck on the build.
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You can save some coin by using say a Bell & Carson stock instead of a McMillan, a Douglas barrel instead of a Hart, Lilja, Krieger etc. and going with a blind magazine instead of a hinged floorplate. You can also have the gunsmith tune a stock 700 trigger instead of going aftermarket there as well.

ps. Also look into PacNor barrels as they are still slightly under the radar and do excellent work regarding action truing, fitting and chambering. If going with a Bell & Carson or even a McMillan you can save yourself some money by requesting a "skim" bedding job instead of a complete pillar/glass bedding job. To be perfectly honest, either of those stocks really don't need pillars anyway as pillars were originally intended for wood stocked guns.

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As far as gunsmith's are concerned here is a list of guys who do top flight work.

Bill Truitt- Bill's Accuracy Shop
Bob Green- Greensrifles
Clarence Hammonds- Hammonds Rifles
Mickey Coleman- Coleman Rifles
Dave Tooley- Tooley Custom Rifles
Clay Spencer- Spencer Barrels and gunsmithing
Sid Goodling- Goodling Rifles
Bill Stevens- Stevens Accuracy


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I too am looking for an affordable option for custom gun work but unlike the OP I will also need someone who can cut a nice walnut stock and do all of the rough inletting etc for a howa 1500 barreled action. I plan on doing the finishing myself. Later on I may look into getting the action rebarreled and trued up but for now I would just love to get the stock done. If anyone has a suggestion or good experience I would love to hear it. I don't mean to Hijack the thread either, I just thought these two types of services would see some overlap.
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Originally posted by mlv2k5 mlv2k5 wrote:

I will also need someone who can cut a nice walnut stock and do all of the rough inletting etc for a howa 1500 barreled action. I plan on doing the finishing myself. Later on I may look into getting the action rebarreled and trued up but for now I would just love to get the stock done.
 
Just get a Vanguard Sporter stock...good enough for me! Or contact Weatherbys custom shop and see if they can do the stock from the discontinued Vanguard Deluxe.
 
 
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Originally posted by SamC SamC wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

I don't know. All the custom makers are making stuff for millionaires.....
That's the problem, when you look at most price sheets today you'd think they are building the space shuttle! I'm just talking about building a nice accurate rifle to hunt with.
Sam


Sam..... hunt what with?  most Rem 700s are plenty accurate to hunt deer size game with.  You looking for a special round? 

I think the guys at Hill Country are still building the Harvester Rifle for $1900.00 and it's on a Rem 700 XCR action with a McMillan stock.  They guarantee their rifles to shoot 3 in 1" at 100yds with factory ammo.
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Also, in the March 1 edition of Gun Digest (formerly Gun List) there is a neat article about a smith in Garrett Indiana by the name of Richard Clauss.  Might give him a try.
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Originally posted by mlv2k5 mlv2k5 wrote:

I too am looking for an affordable option for custom gun work but unlike the OP I will also need someone who can cut a nice walnut stock and do all of the rough inletting etc for a howa 1500 barreled action. I plan on doing the finishing myself. Later on I may look into getting the action rebarreled and trued up but for now I would just love to get the stock done. If anyone has a suggestion or good experience I would love to hear it. I don't mean to Hijack the thread either, I just thought these two types of services would see some overlap.


Look into Richards Microfit stocks as they provide unfinished, but completely inletted stocks for just about every barreled action out there.
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I keep playing around with numbers to possibly do a built like yours. Yeh a B&C medalist is a fine stock for the cash, a older rem.700 triggers can be tuned just fine for hunting, and rebarreling your action/and trueing it up should get you a pretty awesome set up. But everytime I add it all up..............a Cooper Phoenix or Excalibur will give you the same or more for less money.
 
I have an Excalibur .30-06 and while mine's been an odd ball and had a little trouble it will now shoot factory ammo under 1/2" at 100 yrds. Which the Excalibur comes in only .30-06 family cartridges.....................the Phoenix comes in a fair amount of different cartridges. I am kind of leaning toward the odd ball 6.5-06 that is not offered in a standard rifle............but common sense keeps telling me to go with a Phoenix in 6.5-284 at $1400 !Pretty cheap compared to building a custom rifle unless you can get a dirt cheap gunsmith. To get a guy to assemble, bed,go over everything,and  true the action.............cheapest I've found is $1000+ just for smithing !!


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I looked into getting a custom rifle built and decided that 1) a Rem. 700 SS (or my LTR) were just about as good for a lot less and 2) I could then blow the wad I saved on great optics, rings and a mount, as well as Harris bipod. Sure, I'd love to have a BAT action with a high-end barrel, but chose to balance out the whole rig...and still spent enough with SWFA to finance the repairs on CF II's truck. Wink
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Don't think you have to use one of the big name expensive smiths either to get a good shooting rifle.  There are plenty of guys out there that know how to build a good rifle.  The local smith I used built me a super accurate rifle, I have shot many groups less than 1/2 MOA out to 600 yards with it. 

It only cost me about $400 to have may Lilja barrel installed, my stock bedded, trigger done, and a bolt knob installed.  I would have spent 3 times that at a fancy smith and ended up with a rifle that couldn't shoot any better than the one he built for me.
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Ummm, don't ban me, but If I was looking to spend about a grand, this is what I would get.

http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htm

They have other packages as well.



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 I just finished this yesterday; Model 12 stainless action(savage) $365,26" stainless fluted varmint barrel(savage) $205, laminate thumbhole stock(numrich) $125, egw rail mount$40,heavier recoil lug$27,=$757.
 Optics still up in the air it will be something from SWFA just not sure yet.
  I now have the option of changing out barrels anytime I want for a variety of calibers.
 Savage is the way to go and build your own,then the options are endless.
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