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SVT_Tactical ![]() TEAM SWFA - Admin ![]() ![]() Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 29681 |
CZ 452.
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DCAMM94 ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: April/19/2008 Location: Fort Worth Status: Offline Points: 3352 |
+1. I have the CZ 452 lux in .22 WMR, and I love it. The Bavarian style stock is great if you're only planning to shoot irons, but also doesn't have a negative effect on shooting with glass, either. |
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SVT_Tactical ![]() TEAM SWFA - Admin ![]() ![]() Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 29681 |
![]() ![]() Thats 10 shoots BTW.
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Bitterroot Bulls ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: May/07/2009 Location: Montana Status: Offline Points: 3416 |
CZ makes a fine rimfire. My 7 year old was shooting a buddy's 17 HMR, and breaking clays way out there.
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jselsor ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: August/01/2011 Location: MO Status: Offline Points: 328 |
What you all's take on the savage mkii fvsr? It comes suppressor ready. They can be had for $225. Would these rifles compare to the cz?
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mike650 ![]() Optics God ![]() Joined: May/14/2006 Location: West of Rockies Status: Offline Points: 13048 |
Ruger 10/22
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Dale Clifford ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() Joined: July/04/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5087 |
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jselsor ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: August/01/2011 Location: MO Status: Offline Points: 328 |
No way on the 10/22
I no if i buy one i will dump another 300+ in it to trick it out!! |
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SVT_Tactical ![]() TEAM SWFA - Admin ![]() ![]() Chief Sackscratch Joined: December/17/2009 Location: NorthCackalacky Status: Offline Points: 29681 |
I think youd be happy with either savage or cz, i have history with cz so I can attest to it.
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They get dirty????
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mike650 ![]() Optics God ![]() Joined: May/14/2006 Location: West of Rockies Status: Offline Points: 13048 |
That's the beauty of a 10/22. Their much cheaper, super accurate out of the box, cheap to upgrade, and extremely durable out in the field. We put a good scope on ours along with a light synthetic stock. Sighted it in once about 10 years ago and I'm sure it's groups are still much like SVT's. We don't punch paper, we hunt wabbit's with it. We warm the kids up each year by having them shoot the bottle caps off several water bottles ranging between between 50 and 100 yards, that's good enough for hunting. |
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pyro6999 ![]() Optics Retard ![]() ![]() OT TITAN Joined: December/22/2006 Location: North Dakota Status: Offline Points: 22034 |
ive got one from 1970 something my dad won in college in a raffle. ticket cost him $1. it will not use a butler creek 25shot clear plastic clip though. it jams about every 2-3 shots. switch back to the factory ten it will run forever without a hiccup. its nothing like my cz 452 though.
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jselsor ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: August/01/2011 Location: MO Status: Offline Points: 328 |
Dale how does your savage shoot? Which model is that with the low mag scope on it? Is it a 17 or 22
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Urimaginaryfrnd ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Resident Redneck Joined: June/20/2005 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 14257 |
I think the choice depends on how you intend to use it. If it is a rifle to train kids then a bold action or even a single shot is a good idea to teach them to place their shots and aim. With a semi auto kids tend to want to hear it go bang as fast as it will. The flip side of this is that the Ruger 10-22 is ultra reliable and has high capacity magazines available in addition to the standard 10 round rotary mag, quite useful for self defense when a larger caliber is not available. Both Marlin and Savage make some stainless bolt actions and Marlin Model 70PSS Stainless is a take down rifle that can be placed easily in a back pack as a survival rifle. The Ruger 10-22 can have a folding stock and also be fairly compact.
The Marlin 60SS http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/60SS.asp has a tube magazine which holds 14 shots and the "micro-groove rifling" of Marlins seems to be very good, these tend to be a good value. Marlins lever action model 39A is also a takedown rifle but has the solid feel of a centerfire and the price to match, it is a lovely rifle with great ballance definately my all time favorites. Ruger also makes some bolt guns in 22, 22mag and 17hmr that are priced and built like a centerfire quality arms built to last a lifetime or two or three. 17hmr has outstanding accuracy and 22 mag has considerably more energy. I have an old lever action marlin 22 mag that I use to hunt coyotes. The savage stainless bolt gun I currently have with accutrigger and thumb hole stock does not shoot as well as the marlin 22 stainless bolt gun it replaced but its not off by much and good quality ammo makes a huge difference compared to bulk ammo. My only experience with CZ is having looked closely at them and I have refrained from purchasing one because I prefer a stainless gun but they are a favorite of many as you can see. Form follows function so decide how you want to use the rifle that will tell you what to select then attempte to locate one and see how it fits you. You may also want to consider 22 pistols like the Ruger Mark III |
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jselsor ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: August/01/2011 Location: MO Status: Offline Points: 328 |
Yep! LOL
Thats what I would wind up with a thousand dollar 22 Nice rig and optic bet its a tac driver Im leaning toward a savage mkii blued/synth that way I can camo it out and not feel bad. I have up to a dozen squirrels at a time at my corn feeder. I cant wait :)
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cheaptrick ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Joined: September/27/2004 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 20848 |
I too love the CZ 452. Here's mine with a Weaver 2-7x Rimfire.
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I have a 93R17 17 HMR, and don't like it very much at all. I finally found some ammo that would group OK, but everything else shot patterns instead of groups. The ammo is not cheap, but it is not too bad. Good .22 LR ammo is not cheap either. The machining marks on the bolt look like it was finished by a monkey with a coarse file. The thing I like least about it is the AccuTrigger. The AccuTrigger seems alright on the bench, but for hunting it feels weird. I guess for the price it is hard to expect perfection, and it is functional.
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Bitterroot Bulls ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: May/07/2009 Location: Montana Status: Offline Points: 3416 |
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Sparky ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() Joined: July/15/2007 Location: SD Status: Offline Points: 3680 |
Another vote for the CZ. |
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jselsor ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: August/01/2011 Location: MO Status: Offline Points: 328 |
Im scared to put my hands on a cz. I have a feeling I would have to have one.
Urimaginary friend I have a browning buckmark 22 camper. It is a real shooter! That thing will shoot CHEAP ammo and not jam. Several of my buddies shoot walter p22 and they jam non stop unless cci mini mag. I have gotten a ton of cheap 22 shells cuz it wouldnt shoot in their guns :) I have heard the ruger is similar
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Dale Clifford ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() Joined: July/04/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5087 |
don't shoot groups except to sight in-- waste of time. The black savage is the tactical model with a higher check and a tactical style bolt for fast manipulation. the scope is a 4x ior that has 15 milhold over in the reticle and that easily in the calibratied turret which is calibrated for 308 168 gr. the drop of a subsonic cci standard velocity replicates the 308 and the 4x gives the same sight picture out to 300 yds which is why the gun makes a good trainer. The experience gained by reading wind drift is worth the effort when going to the bigger guns at 1000 yd.
The stainless is a 22 lr, used for the same purpose, except it has a leo mk 4 on it. the 17 hmr gains its best use in a handgun which I use a Taurus, and makes up for the inaccuracy and lack of expansion I've found in the various 22 mag hand guns I've tried. 223 can be reloaded for a little more than the 17. any I use a raging hornet in a Taurus.
the ruger is used for standing silhoutte shooting.
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