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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jls28 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/16/2012 at 14:02
The Vortex RAZOR with the EBR 556 is on my list
 
But the reticle is a little wierd
 
The US optics I have to look through to verify Hoping some had one to let me know  about  it
 
Fall back is still the VXR leupold  kind of like the Dot for CQB
 
I will spend what it takes to get the job done right but just want to do it once for this particular AR
 
Have another AR with an 18 inch barrel using a 2.5-10 nikon monarch X that had laying around (see the doing it once comment)    the scope is overkill but I and using it devleoping handloads for the platform can pick up the 22 holes at 100 for grouping using the spotter for the 200 yard groups and 300 before the SUN wipes out with Mirage on hotter days will whack  a steel pate or two at 400 when I am at the range that has longer ranges. 
 
On that note we are finding the PMC working best in multiple AR's I can't hanload cheaper that what we get it for doing 1.5 inches or less at 100 and holding around 2.5 at 200 so we are burining it up.  The AR I am looking for this application for will do under and inch with the PMC  Handloads I am using the 69 and 75's for the longer barrel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ccoker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/21/2012 at 11:12
Meopta ZD 1-4 is another option.
I was hesitant to recommend it as I hadn't got a chNce to use the new one.
Just got it in, true 1x, extremely bright, 2 MOA dot (at 4x) and holdover points for 2, 3, 4 and 500 yards.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jls28 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/26/2012 at 13:31
Right now I am down to the Leupold VXR patrol with the Firedot SPR on the low end and the DFP US optics on the high end. Trying to get to the US Optics factory to look throuh a couple before I bite.  Shot an Aimpoint Patrol last week and it was great out to 100 (range linits) saw a lot of junk on the shooting line. I want the 4X option so far but won't go beyond 6X .  I will keep old slab sides (45 1911 for under 25 yards)    
 
wish the SFWA 1x6 was available and may grab one this summer  
 
Will check in when I get something on the rifle and report what the outcome is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jls28 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/10/2012 at 14:33
This weekend we got to shoot the Leupold VXR 1.25X4 was impressed with the overall quality and the firedot reticle  sighted in at 50 with a new female shooter she started boring less than 1 inch groups moved her out to 100 groups within limits 1.5 inches of ammo and at 200  we both could pick out a 1 inch dot and she bullseyed it on her new SIG Sauer 516 what a combination.  I am impressed with the whole package.  Mine is on order.  I will still wait for the SFWA 1X6 or the US optics but The leupold works great for my other AR. We are set two inches High at 100 and it works out to two inches low at 200 seems to be the sweet spot.    Ammo is PMC 55 GR and I can't reload for what we are paying for it right now.    
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You shooting a 5.56? If so, a 200 yard zero makes you <2" high at 100yds and approx 7" low at 300 yards. Top of target aim should work, as mentioned above. In your budget, the Nikon M223 is pretty sweet. I run a Nikon 2x8 M223 on my 16" bull barrel for 3 gun (and fun) and it's more than enough at 300yds but not really too much at 10yds. The Optisan mentioned above is a smokin deal and works really well for the money. I have one mounted on a 16" 5.56 bullpup and it's solid. 4x power should be enough for coyotes at 300-400 yards, too. 
 
  
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Originally posted by Bullwinkle511 Bullwinkle511 wrote:

An amazing amount of knowledge on this website.  I thank you all for the input.  (If you guys could do this for marriages, you would make a fortune.)  I like the price of the MTAC but am intrigued by the red triangle scope.  Getting sub moa at 300 yds with a 300 yd zero working off the point of the triangle is impressive.  
 
Actually we can do this for marriages but we find that the female of the species is immune to male logic.

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Geting 2950 FPS AVG out of a 16 inch barrel at 10 ft my ballistic program is running true to the settings for the impacts I am getting and the 55GR bullet  with a 200 zero we are 4 inches high at 100 so we split the difference and for a 200 zero we are projected to be 6 inches low at 300 but havent shot it out at that yet maybe this saturday if the wind is low.  This is a 223 cartridge the 556 will run hotttwer but haven't shot.  THe range will not allow the Green tip 62 grn Nato round 
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Actually the best marriage advice is to take your wife with you.  The work I stated above was done with My best Freinds wife at the trigger.  Besides women are easier to teach to shoot and she is better that her husband right now.  All of the women I have had the pleasure of introducing to shooting have had a ball.  The Sig Sauer 516 was an early xmas present and she is thrilled. Give them the information and let them at it.  Don't hover all over them and get all into to much help just support.  Believe me they get it quickly.  I tell them what they need to know and why and a few tips after they pull the trigger and it is amazing how fast they get it.  The AR is the perfect platform for the girls for center fire.   Hand them a 22 auto pistol and watch out how fast they are willing to shoot a 44 mag  My budies wife is just 5 ft tall and will not brake 100 on the scale. she now has her own 9mm and AR and wants to try the 12 gauge.  After the range we go to her favorite lunch spot and it is a win win.  For the pistol staple ballons at 15 yards and watch the smile on their faces as they bust em up. For the rifle same at 50 then move the targets out.  All you have to do from there is load magazines (they will ask you for information/tips  from there on).  My daughter started at age 8.  My granddaughter is now ready to start.  
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