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My father asked me to scope his boyhood winchester 61. He shoots squirrels in thick woods (low light) with it and complained  that his 15mm tasco is too dark. After taking a shot with my zeiss he said he doesn't care about the price but I think around $200 should get him bright enough glass for that rifle. He could certainly afford better but would expensive glass be over doing it on an old winchester 61? I'm not sure what kind of accuracy these old pump guns are capable of. Something variable would be nice. How important is the adj. parallax? Any opinions of the burris rimfire scopes?

 

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The Weaver Classic Rimfire Series in 3-9x32mm with A.O. is right at $200.00 and has fully multi-coated lenses.

If money is no object...I like the Bushnell Elite 4200 in 4-16x40mm with A.O. for around $350.00

If the gun is not all that great...you would still have a good scope that could be used on another gun.

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I would stick with a 3x9 scope such as Sightron S1, which can be had for around 129 or 139.  Quality made Japanese scope.  Company based out of NC, just 45 minutes from where I live, with great optics and a great warranty, that would be perfect for this rifle.
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Originally posted by rtavernetti rtavernetti wrote:

My father asked me to scope his boyhood winchester 61. He shoots squirrels in thick woods (low light) with it and complained  that his 15mm tasco is too dark. After taking a shot with my zeiss he said he doesn't care about the price but I think around $200 should get him bright enough glass for that rifle. He could certainly afford better but would expensive glass be over doing it on an old winchester 61? I'm not sure what kind of accuracy these old pump guns are capable of. Something variable would be nice. How important is the adj. parallax? Any opinions of the burris rimfire scopes?

 

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if your dad said i dont care about the price, then you should do him right and buy him a zeiss just like yours,if he liked it buy it.

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+1 on the Sightron. I got a SII 3-9x42 for 199.00 and it is bright and clear, I have not shot with it yet, so I can't report about POI, but I don't expect any problems. I may be buying a Tikka and if so I will get the SII 3-10x50 for 229.00. I have Nikon Monarchs and when comparing to Sightron SII, for the money difference - I like the Sightrons...... JMO
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Isn't the SII Parallaxed for 100yds? Since most shots will be 50 or much much less with a 22lr don't I need something special? Will a 4200 parallax down to 10 yards?
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I am actually referring to the SI, which is less expensive than the SII.  I really do not believe you have to put that much money into a .22 rimfire scope.  You will not need parallax adjustments for shooting at 10 yards.  I would have to check, but I would bet the SI is parallax adjusted for 50 yards.  Check at www.sightron.com.
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You should also consider Leuopold Rimfire 2x7x28 (~$200) with paralx set on 75 yards and Sightron S1 rimfire 3x9x32 (~$140) with paralx set on 50 yards. I have both scopes and like them. But Leupold, which is VX-1 scope, is much nicer and brighter. Both have fine crosshair/duplex which can help your father shooting small targets. Leupold will be closer to zeiss quality than S1.
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  PARALLAX  in Leupold is adjusted on 60 yards, not 75 as I implied in the post above. Also, I am sorry for the  spelling of PARALLAX. Obviously,  I spent too many hours in my office...  
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Originally posted by 22LR 22LR wrote:

You should also consider Leuopold Rimfire 2x7x28 (~$200) with paralx set on 75 yards and Sightron S1 rimfire 3x9x32 (~$140) with paralx set on 50 yards. I have both scopes and like them. But Leupold, which is VX-1 scope, is much nicer and brighter. Both have fine crosshair/duplex which can help your father shooting small targets. Leupold will be closer to zeiss quality than S1.

I would greatly disagree with this statement.  I would take a Sightron SI over any Leupold VXI or VXII.  Just go to a gunshop and have a look throught them and make the decision for yourself.  Is it worth it to spent the extra money on the Leupold name.  I really do not think so.  The VXI competes with the Bushnell Legend and if fact, I would rather have the Bushnell.  Leupold make some very good scopes, but they are pricing themselves out of the marketplace.  Unfortunately, they are going to have to do like alot of other scope manufactures and out source.  If you look at the posts on this forum, the clarity of their glass is steps behind other scopes.  The SI will serve you well.  People get stuck on Leupold, because of the name.  Do not be afraid of going to a different brand or because the cost is less than a comparable Leupold.  But, it is your money, spend it as you wish. 

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Originally posted by 22LR 22LR wrote:

You should also consider Leuopold Rimfire 2x7x28 (~$200) with paralx set on 75 yards and Sightron S1 rimfire 3x9x32 (~$140) with paralx set on 50 yards. I have both scopes and like them. But Leupold, which is VX-1 scope, is much nicer and brighter. Both have fine crosshair/duplex which can help your father shooting small targets. Leupold will be closer to zeiss quality than S1.

I would greatly disagree with this statement.  I would take a Sightron SI over any Leupold VXI or VXII.  Just go to a gunshop and have a look throught them and make the decision for yourself.  Is it worth it to spent the extra money on the Leupold name.  I really do not think so.  The VXI competes with the Bushnell Legend and if fact, I would rather have the Bushnell.  Leupold make some very good scopes, but they are pricing themselves out of the marketplace.  Unfortunately, they are going to have to do like alot of other scope manufactures and out source.  If you look at the posts on this forum, the clarity of their glass is steps behind other scopes.  The SI will serve you well.  People get stuck on Leupold, because of the name.  Do not be afraid of going to a different brand or because the cost is less than a comparable Leupold.  But, it is your money, spend it as you wish. 

i hear the choir starting to warm up, i feel like preaching can i get an amen from the congregation, dolphin your hitting the leupold problem in the head!! well said good buddy!!

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 Well, I referred only to these two models of the rimfire scopes and it is my subjective opinion which I honestly shared.  I like both of them, but for my eyes, rimfire Leupold provides better images than rimfire S1. Leupold costs 70 bucks more, but believe that the money were well spent. I agree that, VX-1, Rifleman, and maybe VXII are overpriced when you compare to the other scopes on a market. Amen.
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Originally posted by rtavernetti rtavernetti wrote:

Isn't the SII Parallaxed for 100yds? Since most shots will be 50 or much much less with a 22lr don't I need something special? Will a 4200 parallax down to 10 yards?

The 4200 will adjust down to 10 yards or 10 meters...can't remember which. I have a 4200 on a rimfire 22lr and am thinking of getting another one for another rimfire.



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now dont get me wrong leupold still has the best warranty and replacement program in the industry but like dolphin said they are turning out a huge number of scopes and asking a lot more than they use to, which really sucks cause i really like the old vari-xII and vari-xIII's but they jacked the price and quit making them, so i switched brands and now i own a bunch of nikons and a burris and for my next deer rifle i may buy a 4200, i have no knowledge of sightron but dolphin and koshkin do, and i think they both like there scopes, and generally speaking they sound like they are built well and preform well also.
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So I do not consider the VX1 or II good value glass in their price class. I was told the VXI has coated front and back lenses only. You don't get fully coated optics until you hit the VXIII. I think I would do best with fully coated glass. Are the S1's fully coated? There is not much info on their website. Something like a Nikon monarch would be ideal. Do any of the monarchs have a parallax at 50 yards like the shotgun or pistol models? I think the Monarch is a good buy but if they won't work for a rimfire then does anyone have a preference between the Burris Rimfire ($260) vs. the Weaver Rimfire ($200) vs. a VXII EFR ($349). I'm thinking both will be brighter than a VXII as they are fully multicoated. So far those are the only rimfire scopes I am aware of. Is the glass in any of these as good as the monarch?



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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

I would stick with a 3x9 scope such as Sightron S1, which can be had for around 129 or 139.  Quality made Japanese scope.  Company based out of NC, just 45 minutes from where I live, with great optics and a great warranty, that would be perfect for this rifle.


(competitor) USA is clearancing these Sightron S1 rimfire scopes at $79.99.  I just got mine yesterday.  My only concern was some reviews on (competitor)s website that stated the focus was soft at higher powers.  Maybe I got an exceptional unit but when I focused mine to a sharp reticle at 9 power the image is crystal clear throughout the power range.  If the durability and tracking are as good as the optics it is a real bargain.  I'm thinking about buying another. 
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 S1 rimfire for $80 it is a great buy ! In my understanding, this is multi-coated scope. But Sightron manufactures also S2 Big Sky rimfire scope for $350 which is fully-multi-coated and should be very nice.
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That looks like a great buy but it only has a coated ocular and objective. The S2 is fully multi coated which is the minimum I think I'm looking for. If you can see an obvious difference in broad daylight between two scopes brightness then I just assume pay the extra $$ and get the brighter. After you get to monarch, FFII quality I feel the returns on the extra cash will not be so noticeable. Sightron S2 Rimfire Scope 3-9x 36mm Adjustable Objective is also on sale for $239 free ship and I'm sure SWFA could match it. So I think I have it down to:

Sightron S2 rimfire AO (239)

Weaver Classic Rimfire AO (200)

Burris Rimfire AO (260)

 

The weaver rimfire is fully coated and looks like a great value. Is the S2 worth the extra $39?

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 According to the many opinions expressed on OT,  SII is on par with Monarch. Which, means that is optically better than Weaver. Maybe colleagues who use SII can confirm. I do not have any opinion about Burris rimfire, but as any Burris it should be a good scope. IMO S2 is worth extra $39.
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 If you are wondering about the Nikon Monarch...I have the Monarch in 3.3-10x44mm with A.O. that will adjust down to 50 yards. I see them listed here at SWFA for $289.00
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I just ordered the S2 3-9x36 AO rimfire, AO to 10m, $219 shipped with satisfaction guarantee. I will post what I think. I have heard people say they are brighter than the monarch but I'll have to wait and see.   



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Good choice.  You won't be disappointed.

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rtavernetti,

Definitely keep us posted on your thoughts about this scope.  There's a conspicuous lack of high-quality purpose built rimfire scopes anymore.  It's very disappointing to me that if you want to put a proportionally sized scope on a nice rimfire that isn't parallax focused for centerfire shooting distances, you have mostly cheap, Wal-Mart class optics to choose from.  I've never owned any Sightron scopes, but I've heard good reports about them in general and given the pitiful selection of other rimfire compatible scopes available, I might have to check this one out.

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I just received a clearidge 3x9x32 today.It cost 199.00 and seems to be a very nice scope.It's made in Japan.The rifle I'm mounting it on should be here this week.I also bought a weaver 2.5x7 to put on my cz452fs and will try to compare them this weekend.

 

Clearidge may end up being some good competition,which is good for everyone.

 

I was also pretty impressed with the weaver.

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