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http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-MI-p/bcm-urg-mid-16-mi-t12g2.htm
Are these uppers worth as much as you pay for them. The initial price isn't too bad, but you have to add a BCG to complete it. So that will be another $170 on up to be able to shoot it.
 
My other concern is that everything seems to be 1:7, I want to be able to shoot the 55 grain fmj's I've picked up accurately out to about 200 or so. I've read conflicting reports on whether or not a 1:7 will shoot a 55 grain pill worth a crap.
 
Tyring to figure out if I should hold out to find a 1:8 in a similiar configuration as the upper in the link.
 
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This is much better but they are custom built and will take time to get it.
 
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

This is much better but they are custom built and will take time to get it.
 


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 I am not sure you will find a better upper that the White Oak. Plus it looks like they will cost you less money.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:



This is much better but they are custom built and will take time to get it.
 


What makes it a better option? Is it the price or the way the upper is made? Excuse my ignorance, but we aren't allowed such toys in S.A. At least not without joining a 3 gun club, and extensive motivations as to why you need a semi auto rifle. So there isn't much choice as to what you can buy, and then it's only complete rifles that are imported.
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it's not really a quality difference, it's a more bang for your buck difference. BCM and WOA are both top notch in quality. but i would say the BCM bcg is one of the best out there.
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Thanks jrgr21 guess that makes sense, I would have thought it would have been better to buy a complete rifle from a Manufacturer.
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as far as complete rifle bang for your buck, i'd say it's hard to beat an M&P15.

but i like building them, you get what you want from the get go, and don't waste money swapping parts you don't want. my last build cost $750(a lot of used parts) with a black hole SPR, and all quality sh*t.
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Depends on what you want, if you want a milspec carbine to run and gun  go BCM, if you want to to shoot the nuts off a fly then WOA.
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Apart from the pistol grip, butstock, and forearm. What parts would you be changing and why?

Like I said AR style rifles are not readily available here in South Africa. There are a few shops stocking them, but they aren't really keen showing you the rifles. As they know the average Joe can't get a license for it. I'm a member of the South African Hunters association, where I can do a Dedicated Sportsmans course and then buy an AR style rifle. But it is not to say the South African Police will aprove the licencse application.

I would like to save up and try once I do the course, prices run around $2700 for Gilboa, Remington, PRO Arms. And around $4500 for PWS and Sig. Really steep.
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Originally posted by stork23raz stork23raz wrote:

  if you want to to shoot the nuts off a fly then WOA.


A lot of competitive shooters use WOA uppers. That is one of the reasons I am going with them for an upper to put on my JP lower.
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Originally posted by Glock Glock wrote:


I would like to save up and try once I do the course, prices run around $2700 for Gilboa, Remington, PRO Arms. And around $4500 for PWS and Sig. Really steep.


All I can say wow. I paid $517 for my complete JP lower shipped and the WOA upper I want is $620 plus some shipping. All I need to add to that is a magazine a scope mount and a scope. And I am ready to go.
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Prices are crazy here even a Norinco AR will cost you around $1700, Goverment adds about 30% import duties to anything gun related.
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Originally posted by stork23raz stork23raz wrote:

  if you want to to shoot the nuts off a fly then WOA.


A lot of competitive shooters use WOA uppers. That is one of the reasons I am going with them for an upper to put on my JP lower.
I have a WOA service rifle upper I use in High Power, its sweet, i really want a varminter upper too now.
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BCM is GTG. 

Ive put 50g through mine, its a 16" light middy by mistake; no problems, but wouldnt go lighter. 

Palmetto state is good too; maybe just a little below BCM, but not much. 

Heres a dissipator in stock!

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Originally posted by mil169 mil169 wrote:

"...My other concern is that everything seems to be 1:7, I want to be able to shoot the 55 grain fmj's I've picked up accurately out to about 200 or so. I've read conflicting reports on whether or not a 1:7 will shoot a 55 grain pill worth a crap.." 
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Hornady (and others) say not to use "Varmint" type thinly built bullets in fast twisters, but their standard  55 gr spire pts.work great in 1:8.
 A4 uppers- not as handy in competition as an A2 upper, since you can't reach the bolt catch through the handle- A4 better to mount optics for a multi- purpose rifle.
 Rock River customer support is worthy of respect and their NM models seen often in Service Rifle shoots. WOA is most beloved because of the pinned rear sight, afaik.
Good luck.
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If u want yo shoot heavies and lights find a 1-8" twist barrel. I have had 7" three of them amd none shot 55 grain well. 69 and 75 were awesome though. My 1-8" shoots 55 good and the 69 and 75s awesome.
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Thanks Supertool, that's what I wanted to know. I haven't kept up with my thread very well. I decided to do the build. I have an upper coming from Rainiers, a 16" 1:8 parkerized govt profile barrel from Joebobs, a low profile gas block and YHM 5c2 flash hider from Midway, midlength gas tube and pin from WOA, and a free float quad rail from EBay. I have a bcg to borrow, but I"ll pick one up in a month or two.

A few more parts need to show and I'll build a few wrenches and clamps and get it put together.
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