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    Posted: April/28/2010 at 06:31
My rifle Rem 700 with a Truvelo barrel (South African) has now sent approx 1500 rounds down range.
308 Win caliber 155gr palma bullets with 42,6gr S335 powder.
 
What does the barrel and throat look like? How good is my cleaning regime??
 
I took the rifle to a very good gunsmith who used his borescope to answer the above.
 
Verdict?
A clean bill of health was given. The throat shows very mild crackling on the lands, the very early stages of throat erosion. The barrel shows similiar mild crackling on the first 6 inches of the barrel with a bit of carbon trapped in the cracks. A very small amount of copper traces were found in the barrel.
 
He was quite impressed how well the barrel is holding out and is probably a third of the way in its usefull life.
 
My cleaning regime is also good. Allthough I must admit I scrubbed it a bit extra and put on clean underwear for the doctor's examination.
 
With the extra scrubbing I noticed quite a bit of carbon being removed.
 
I do a push through with a soaked rag of shooters choice, followed by a nylon brushing and clean rag. Then I alternate with a copper brush soaked with a non copper removal such as hoppes and a copper removal such as shooters choice.
 
I do this till the rags come out clean.
 
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good to hear its still got some life in it.  Many more enjoyable days at the range to come huh? 
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  IMPRESSIVE BARREL!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

My rifle Rem 700 with a Truvelo barrel (South African) has now sent approx 1500 rounds down range.
308 Win caliber 155gr palma bullets with 42,6gr S335 powder.
 
What does the barrel and throat look like? How good is my cleaning regime??
 
I took the rifle to a very good gunsmith who used his borescope to answer the above.
 
Verdict?
A clean bill of health was given. The throat shows very mild crackling on the lands, the very early stages of throat erosion. The barrel shows similiar mild crackling on the first 6 inches of the barrel with a bit of carbon trapped in the cracks. A very small amount of copper traces were found in the barrel.
 
He was quite impressed how well the barrel is holding out and is probably a third of the way in its usefull life.
 
My cleaning regime is also good. Allthough I must admit I scrubbed it a bit extra and put on clean underwear for the doctor's examination.
 
With the extra scrubbing I noticed quite a bit of carbon being removed.
 
I do a push through with a soaked rag of shooters choice, followed by a nylon brushing and clean rag. Then I alternate with a copper brush soaked with a non copper removal such as hoppes and a copper removal such as shooters choice.
 
I do this till the rags come out clean.
 


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More barrels are destroyed by cleaning than by shooting.


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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Everyone who eats peanut butter dies.
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DAMMIT!!!
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  Sad  Say it ain't so.
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I stopped putting peanut butter in my barrels (just occasionally rub some gunny paste into the furniture on my M1). But I also stopped cleaning much and pretty much ignore copper until accuracy drops off. It's good to run a bore brush up and down the barrel a few times with a carbon solvent on it, then patch it a few times. Yet that's just to knock the deposits down rather than get to bare metal. I've noticed less variation between the first 1-2 shots and later shots because I don't have to foul the barrel to get it back to shooting well.
Reaction time is a factor...
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Everyone who eats peanut butter dies.
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DAMMIT!!!
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

I stopped putting peanut butter in my barrels (just occasionally rub some gunny paste into the furniture on my M1). But I also stopped cleaning much and pretty much ignore copper until accuracy drops off. It's good to run a bore brush up and down the barrel a few times with a carbon solvent on it, then patch it a few times. Yet that's just to knock the deposits down rather than get to bare metal. I've noticed less variation between the first 1-2 shots and later shots because I don't have to foul the barrel to get it back to shooting well.
 
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First sentence was a joke.
Reaction time is a factor...
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  Yea,I kinda figured I was the only one who used peanut butter.   Thunbs Up
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Everyone who eats peanut butter dies.
Eventually.
 
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Yes but the ones that don't eat peanut butter die at an earlier age. Just look at the longevity of people now compared to 150 years ago before peanut butter was invented.
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Everyone who eats peanut butter dies.
Eventually.
 
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Yes but the ones that don't eat peanut butter die at an earlier age. Just look at the longevity of people now compared to 150 years ago before peanut butter was invented.

the Heimlich maneuver was invented shortly after the thick and crunchy peanut butter was.
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The funny part is I once had an Old Timer tell me to use peanut butter as a lapping compound to break in the bolt on my new Savage rifle. I didn't... but thought it just mite work...
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

I stopped putting peanut butter in my barrels (just occasionally rub some gunny paste into the furniture on my M1). But I also stopped cleaning much and pretty much ignore copper until accuracy drops off. It's good to run a bore brush up and down the barrel a few times with a carbon solvent on it, then patch it a few times. Yet that's just to knock the deposits down rather than get to bare metal. I've noticed less variation between the first 1-2 shots and later shots because I don't have to foul the barrel to get it back to shooting well.
I do like to finish up by running a Vlasick cucumber chip through the bore...they are the perfect patch size for .30 cal.
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barrels are a paradox of life. the shooter spends $1000 to ruin it, and then another $500 to get it back the way it was before ruining it.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

barrels are a paradox of life. the shooter spends $1000 to ruin it, and then another $500 to get it back the way it was before ruining it.
 
WOW... that's pretty profound, Dale!  I'm stunned!
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