Bad Super Sniper box test!!!

A little while ago I posted a coment about my scope MOA being possibly off. So I did a simple 15MOA box test at 100Y....guess what it was garbage. I should have gotten a 15" sguare box w/ 5 holes in each corner ( or a group anyway), but I had right at a 17" box consistantly. Every adjustment put the point of impact almost 2" off where it should have been. Please tell me there is a warranty on these scopes so I can send it in and rectify this problem. With results like this I might as well use kentucky windage...at 600Y moa value is double! What the hell!!!!!

Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - August/25/2009 at 21:33

sniper13 wrote: A little while ago I posted a coment about my scope MOA being possibly off. So I did a simple 15MOA box test at 100Y....guess what it was garbage. I should have gotten a 15" sguare box w/ 5 holes in each corner ( or a group anyway), but I had right at a 17" box consistantly. Every adjustment put the point of impact almost 2" off where it should have been. Please tell me there is a warranty on these scopes so I can send it in and rectify this problem. With results like this I might as well use kentucky windage...at 600Y moa value is double! What the hell!!!!!

Edited by RONK - August/10/2009 at 14:38

 Well, in another thread in the reloading forum, he mentioned getting consistent 1/2 minute groups, so I'm thinking he shot well at 100 yards, but with wind and mirage probably not so well at 600.

I think the bigger picture is he has a scope that doesn't track as it should.  It may or may not be "a huge deal" to him or prospective buyers.  My SS20x did not track accurately either, but it was consistent.  THat's why I'd like to know if it made a square box or not.  I could live with adjustments that were not according to the graduations but an out of square box is bad juju.  I no longer own a SS.

Good reading RONK.  Mine had larger than 1/4moa clicks as well.  It's been a while....I don't remember how far off it was.  I may dig out those old box tests later.

OK...let me clear up all the details...the box is perfectly square, it had 17 inch sides which means it is 2 moa off of a 15 moa test, my biggest group is approx 3/8" so the measurements are pretty well on.......@ 600 I had to cut the moa in half to put it where I wanted it to go, this is an approximate, though this is irrelevent the fact is it isnt right....their wasnt any wind to speak of and sure wasnt any mirage.... the two groups that showed me this were right at 4".  However I contacted SWFA and explained this to a tech. and no questions asked he said send it in and we will exchange it for a new one ( now that is a stand up company!!!). So my problem is solved, but I still dont understand why it was doing this, I really dont understand the internal makeup of optics.....if any one can explain this to me, please feel free...THANKS

sniper13 wrote: OH....and when 1 shot matters....this is very important I think...it is definately the difference in a kill and a miss at 600 or farther.

I agree.  If anything, this punctuates the need to know where your bullet is going, not just zero at 100 yards and run a ballistics program and think that it says 11 clicks for 300 so it is 11 clicks to dead-nutz at 300.

Never take a shot on game that you do not have a zero on for that load, that scope, and that rifle (in similar conditions.)  Anything else is asking for trouble and, at long range, is poor hunting ethics.

As I said previously, Chris will stand behind his stuff.  Let us know how the next one tracks.

sniper13 wrote: OK...let me clear up all the details...the box is perfectly square, it had 17 inch sides which means it is 2 moa off of a 15 moa test, my biggest group is approx 3/8" so the measurements are pretty well on.......@ 600 I had to cut the moa in half to put it where I wanted it to go, this is an approximate, though this is irrelevent the fact is it isnt right....their wasnt any wind to speak of and sure wasnt any mirage.... the two groups that showed me this were right at 4".  However I contacted SWFA and explained this to a tech. and no questions asked he said send it in and we will exchange it for a new one ( now that is a stand up company!!!). So my problem is solved, but I still dont understand why it was doing this, I really dont understand the internal makeup of optics.....if any one can explain this to me, please feel free...THANKS

I would really, really, really love to put this particular scope on one of my rifles for a weekend.

OH...cheap it is clickin audibly and I feel it...I just dont understand...

sh*t,I wish I could put Mike on my rifle! Or have at least tell me what I am doing wrong!

I wish I could see good enough to hit within 2" at 600 yds. Much less shoot that good. This is all far above my current ability.

Ok, I do have one question and please excuse me if it has been asked before.