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Little help you guys.  I purchased a Leupold VX-III 1.5-5X 20mm scope from SWFA for my new CZ 550 Safari Magnum in a 458 Winchester Magnum and I want an inexpensive back up scope, but still a quality scope.  I am looking at the Nikon shown below.  The price from SWFA is incredible.  I mean it beats all competitors by a long shot, as usual.  Anybody have any experience with this scope?  Again, this would be a back up and would be set up on Warne grooved CZ QD rings, for a quick change out.
 

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Nikon 1.5-4.5x20 Monarch UCC Shotgun Scope

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Weight (oz): 9.9

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Length (in): 9.7
Eye Relief (in): 3.7 - 3.6
Field of View @ 75 yards (ft): 50.3 - 16.7
Exit Pupil (mm): 4.4
MOA: 1/2
Parallax Setting (yds): 75

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Dolphin.........................I was considering that scope for my M1500 .375 Ruger coming in late summer! The parallax setting shows 50 yards on some specs and 75 yards on others! Seems like a great deal if you don`t mind the low parallax setting!........However, loaded with lighter bullets, the 375 Ruger is a formidable longer range elk, moose & African plains cartridge too.......I eliminated this Nikon from my list because of the low parallax setting! 
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What does the Nikon website say about the parallax setting?  You know I could check myself, but I think you know the answer.
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Forgot!.... As a back up scope, look very carefully at the Weaver V3 1x3 for about $150! Great little scope for the money!....Great reviews from big bore owners on the M****y site!! That one is also a consideration for me as well!
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

What does the Nikon website say about the parallax setting?  You know I could check myself, but I think you know the answer.
......................If I`m not mistaken, I think it says 50 yards!
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

What does the Nikon website say about the parallax setting?  You know I could check myself, but I think you know the answer.
......................If I`m not mistaken, I think it says 50 yards!
................................Double checked the Nikon web site. That same scope in the "turkey pro" reticle shows a 50 yard parallax. They don`t list that scope with the nikoplex reticle. It is more than likely the same parallax of 50 yards! 
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i think i will agree with squeeze on this one as much as i really like my nikon monarch but chris told me that the v-3 is a great little scope and that means a lot coming from him.
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You are correct, it does say 50 yards, but I believe that the scope that I showed is the old model, as the website does not even list one without a turkey reticle.  I will ask SWFA.  That is probably why the price is so good and if it is set a 75 yards, that is not unreasonable.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i think i will agree with squeeze on this one as much as i really like my nikon monarch but chris told me that the v-3 is a great little scope and that means a lot coming from him.
......................................You know that Squeezer does his homework!!!Thinking
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Eye relief on the V3 is 3.1 inches.  Kinda short for a 458 win. mag..
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Eye relief on the V3 is 3.1 inches.  Kinda short for a 458 win. mag..
..................The eye relief specs shown for the V3 is 3.12"....That is incorrect! It is actually 4" set on 1x & 3.5" set on 3x with the best possible FOV.........This comes from an actual test and precise measurement that I asked another poster to do on another site who just bought the V3 for his new Model 7 350 Remy Mag. He shouldered his rifle while his wife took the measurements and did so twice to make sure! He PM`d me the results!.....Since I am considering this scope myself, I needed to know!.................Besides! If you read the reviews on the M****y site, you`ll see that the V3`s are being used on 375`s to the big 458`s!................
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The Monarch glass is very good and it is $10 cheaper. A 75 yard parallax setting is nothing to worry about with the large game a .458 is used for. You get another lens pen included, too..........like you need another.
There is also a little over a half inch length gain with the Nikon. This may make a difference on a long action.
It looks like either one of these would be a good choice.
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I`d go with the V3 and not worry about any possible parallax issues! The V3`s straight tube available mounting length will be no problem for the 458`s longer action........The V3`s glass is rated at 94% lite trans. to the Nikon`s 95%. I don`t think you`ll see any difference between the two in either clarity or brightness!...........Others have reported the same!  
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Since you already have a good scope with a zoom tube, maybe you should consider a good fixed for back up. Something like the Leupold 2.5x20 should be very durable and it has almost 5" of eye relief.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Since you already have a good scope with a zoom tube, maybe you should consider a good fixed for back up. Something like the Leupold 2.5x20 should be very durable and it has almost 5" of eye relief.
.......................I like that one too!!! A very good choice!!! However, compared to the V3 set on 1x, there is a loss in the FOV dept. with only 39.5' @ 100 yards while the V3`s is about 87'... There will also be a loss of target acquisition speed with the FX2. If a very wide FOV is not an important consideration, then the 2.5x Leupy FX2 is a good one and does offer greater eye relief than the V3!..........Compromises and more compromises!!
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Any other suggestions?
 
How about a Burris 1x Short Mag.  Good eye releif.  Simpe straight tube, fixed power.  Or if you want more the 2.75x fixed although I wouldn't recommend this one due to the poor feild of view.
 
 
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Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Any other suggestions?
 
How about a Burris 1x Short Mag.  Good eye releif.  Simpe straight tube, fixed power.  Or if you want more the 2.75x fixed although I wouldn't recommend this one due to the poor feild of view.
 
 
....................Another good one there too with the Burrris 1x short mag.....................The Burris 2.75x is a scout scope! Too much eye relief (8" to 14"), not enough FOV and certainly not for a DGR even if mounted as a scout scope.................Though I will still contend that the best all around compromise here for Dolphin lies in the Weaver V3 1x3.....Great optics, good eye relief (3.5" to 4");;;; (3.12" is incorrect), very fast to target with both eyes open on the 1x (in fact as one has stated; "as fast as iron sites" in one review) and the V3 has a spectacular FOV on the 1x setting. This scope is probably as fast as a scout, if not faster to the target.............And it`s only $150 bucks!!!............A back-up scope?? I`d say it would make a great 1st string scope too!!
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I would get another Leupold--maybe a used one with some eye relief. Leupold generally has eye relief located in another zip code from the shooter.
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If I was building a dangerous game rifle I think I would outfit it with a ghost ring peep in the back somewhere. Then, if the scope packed up, I would just use the irons. I would certainly yank the scope off to go after something wounded and ANNOYED in the thornbush! Shocked
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

I would get another Leupold--maybe a used one with some eye relief. Leupold generally has eye relief located in another zip code from the shooter.
You know I mounted that Leupold today and you are right.  I am becoming a Leupold fan fast.  I am sure the specs are wrong on that scope.  I am sure at the low end the eye relief must be close to 4 to 5 inches and at the high end is at least 4 inches.  Amazing scope.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

The Monarch glass is very good and it is $10 cheaper. A 75 yard parallax setting is nothing to worry about with the large game a .458 is used for. You get another lens pen included, too..........like you need another.
There is also a little over a half inch length gain with the Nikon. This may make a difference on a long action.
It looks like either one of these would be a good choice.
 I like the idea of some extra length of the Nikon, because I was sweating it while mounting the Leupold, but ended up having enough room due to the extremely long eye relief, longer than the specs. state.
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doesn't that cz have a pretty good set of 3 leaf express iron sites on it.????
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

http://www.swfa.com/pc-9225-1268-aimpoint-micro-h-1-red-dot-sight.aspx
 
????
  Yeah, get one of these or the similar one by Leupold and let us know how you like it!!!!
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