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Just some Dialectic of some sort.  I don't recall what I used on my old SS scope, but it helped. 
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Is this thread dead?!?!

Update.

I am on my third Argos, and it is near perfect.  The replacement they sent had the same turret problem as the first.  I wouldn't call it a "problem" per se, based on the price of the scope, but I really wanted to see if I could do better.  Athlon took the second scope back and went through many dozens of replacements, by hand,  until they found one with turrets that were near perfect.  They sent it to me, and I took it to the range yesterday.  Their customer service is top notch for sure.

85F, 0-2MPH wind, Savage Model 12 22LR @ 50y with Gemtech, CCI, and Federal Supermatch (all three shoot well in the gun).  I had my boy with me, and we were focused more on him drilling the fundamentals vs evaluating the scope, specifically, but here is what I can tell you.

Thanks to the reticle in the scope, I got the rifle zero'd in TWO shots.  Well, one, really, the second shot was to confirm my zero.

He is young and I am old, so our eyes are different.  Each time we would switch shooters, we had to adjust the side focus for our eyes.  I would shoot five shots, then he would.  Back and forth for 150 rounds total.  So the side focus got a ton of use -- perfect each time.

At 24x this scope is really, really, really difficult to get behind.  The eye box is the smallest I've ever experienced and it gets a little dim and murky.  Still useable for sure, just not comfortable.  I spent most of the day at 20-22x or so, and had a very clear, bright picture, scope was easy to get behind.

My son had no issues getting behind the scope at 20-22x.

After we did some ammo testing, we spent some time murdering rocks and clay pigeons, and we were dialing the magnification back and forth for about an hour.  No issues whatsoever, and the "rough spot" I encountered in the initial scope's mag ring was gone.  The scope was mounted in cheap Burris 30mm rings, torqued "by feel" and everything held up, no indication of uneven torque on the scope body, or effects on the internals.

Turrets.... Beyond my initial zero, which after boresighting required less than 1mil elevation and less that half a mil windage to zero, I did not dial the turrets.  I found the Gemtech ammo shoots 1/2" at 50y, so I will take that back out with me next time and actually either do a legit dial test and measure, or just hang steel at six or seven different ranges and then see if I can get hits by dialing.  We chrono'd all shots yesterday, so now I have some dope I can work with in Shooter and Strelok Pro.

I will say that this third scope lands essentially perfectly on its hash marks, each and every time.  Quite impressed for the price I paid.

I will also say that, shooting dark rocks against a dark background, there were times when I couldn't see the hash mark on the reticle that I was using for hold-over.  I didn't put the battery in so I didn't have illumination, but I darn sure wish I had.  

For an inexpensive mil/mil target scope on a 22LR trainer with a bada$$ reticle and illum, this scope has far exceeded my expectations thus far.

I have a 22LR AR15 that needs glass, and will probably be getting a second scope for it.  I'm debating on whether I should roll the dice and see what the turrets are like from a random order, or email Athlon and see if they'll hand pick another one for me.

I can't believe this thread hasn't grown, surely there are more Athlon users out there now?
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8 page thread seems like a pretty big one around here. Anyway, like you said, I hope to see a few more people lay mitts on these and report back.
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Just ordered an Argos 8-34x56 and a Neos 4-12x40. I know these are 2 very different quality scopes, but before I can justify spending $1500 for a Cronus, I need to see an evaluation in quality. And this will enable me to assess if the turret issues are across the board or get better as the price of the scope goes up.
There is a gentlemen at my range that has a Midas 1-6. I haven't gotten to look through it yet as we are never at the range at the same time. Once I get the 2 I just ordered, I'm hoping to get with him and do a side by side by side comparison.
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These two will tell you absolutely nothing about the Cronus. They are made in a different factory.

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I can only compaire the Talos BTR-FFP 4-14X44mm APLR2 to the Vortex PST-FFP 4-16X50mm EBR 1 MRAD. Apples for apples! The vortex is better, but slightly IMO.  Advantage to vortex (turrets, 50mm vs 44mm, and the glass is just a slight advantage)  But this seams to be a great economy scope that can equip 3 rifles with a good scope for the cost of 1 Vortex! Yes I did have to send my original Talos back for replacement.  But I think Athlon is figuring it out, and there customer service is exelent! 

I'll never sale either of my two Vortex.  But I probably wont buy another now that I know about Athlon..        


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Koshkin. I know they are totally different scopes, but I'm hoping to see an evolution in craftsmanship and quality between their lowest offering and a mid grade.
Does anyone have ANY experience with the Cronus?
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Originally posted by kickin45 kickin45 wrote:

Koshkin. I know they are totally different scopes, but I'm hoping to see an evolution in craftsmanship and quality between their lowest offering and a mid grade.
Does anyone have ANY experience with the Cronus?

I tested the 1-6x24 Cronus and liked it a lot.

As for the rest of it, when dealing with different OEMs, your plan does not work.  That having been said, knowing where Cronus is made, I am not terribly concerned about its build quality.

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I know ill probably get jumped on here ,and i personally javenot even had a cjance to look through any Athlon scope yet but i dod do a lot of reading and i dug up some stuff here:http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/forums/5511-rifle-scopes/14717156-athlon-midas-vs-sightron-siii-vs-vortex-viper and i found two authofized dealer here in Tucson that i will be visifing soon and if it helps one of the head giya posted iyou orser from tbe. And mention "the man" they will give you an additional 10% off .BTW iam not in any way affiliated with Athlon nor any optics corp.
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Originally posted by wranglerdog wranglerdog wrote:

Do as you please I'm giving you my oppion I had a hard time be leaving it myself but I'm an avaid shooter and I do no a good scope when I look threw one that's why that scope is sitting on top of my 7 mag instead of my 223 I put a Zeiss 4/14/44 on my 223 . I have a huskama on my 257 and a nightforce on my 6.5/284 and that athlon is as good as any in my book . if you do get one let me no what your thoughts are you can thank me later .


"oppion"..."avaid"..."no a good scope"..."look threw"....Son, you need to turn loose of the guns and attend a remedial English class.
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There you have it: as good as a huskama!
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

There you have it: as good as a huskama!

Aren't those dirt bikes and chain saws
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Husqvarna, looked it up.
I had to check, thought maybe Huskama sucked so bad at scopes ("anyone can hit anything at any range" only holds so much water), maybe they branched out into chainsaws and tractors.
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I realize that the Ares BTR isn't out yet, officially, but many have received test models.

I'm between an Ares BTR 4.5-27 FFP and a Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25......

Has anyone had a chance to handle both?

Thanks.
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Originally posted by tucansam tucansam wrote:

I realize that the Ares BTR isn't out yet, officially, but many have received test models.

I'm between an Ares BTR 4.5-27 FFP and a Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25......

Has anyone had a chance to handle both?

Thanks.


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I have not tested the PST Gen 2 yest, but I am testing the Ares and like it very much.  As far as value for dollar goes, it is a very impressive proposition.

Now, it is a new design and a sample of one, but I like it a lot.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have not tested the PST Gen 2 yest, but I am testing the Ares and like it very much.  As far as value for dollar goes, it is a very impressive proposition.

Now, it is a new design and a sample of one, but I like it a lot.

ILya


aaaaannnnnd???
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Resurrecting this thread to see if we have any more info/feedback/reviews on the Argos, Argos BTR and/or Talos scopes. Thanks!
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The golden oldies are among my favorites, this one especially.
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Well, Zen Ray is for all practical purposes out of business.  They won't update their website, etc, and all product shows to be out of stock, or at least it did.  They are history.

Vortex now has most everything made in China, including the Razor binos and spotters, which used to be made in Japan.  Vortex has always been average at best IMO.  

It is easy to get great optics nowadays, even the Chinese ones.  Durability, longevity, etc is where Chines stuff usually falls short.  I bit on the ZR binos a few years ago.  Great optics, below par everything else, over time.  
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I would definitely try a grease with less viscosity. The factory grease they apply the turrets is pretty thick and gives the turrets a mushy feel. I hope this works for you.
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I have a Athlon Cronus BTR 4.5x29x56mm ,its made at LOW in Japan and it where other top end scopes are made. Its great be sure you look this over if your in the market for a top tier scope.
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I purchased an Argos BTR a few months ago and was quite impressed with it other than the mushy turrets. I replaced the grease and it’s now got a positive and more tactile sound and feel. I personally like the glass better than Vortex PST glass.

I was happy enough that I went to Rainier Arms by my house and compared a Cronus 4-29 and the new Razor Gen 2 side by side. They let me take both scopes outside and we compared them back and forth for about 20 minutes. The glass in both scopes was completely the same to my 20/20 vision eyeballs. I was amazed by the build quality of the Cronus, especially for its price tag. So I brought it home. I zoomed in on a tree branch about
1200-1300 yds away a few sunny days ago and was mesmerized by the detail I could make out. Then a crow landed on the branch and I was shocked to be able to see the individual feathers of its wing. Amazing scope!!! I am an Athlon believer now
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