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I'm in contact with Athlon at this very moment. Trying to get an answer on where the scopes are made/manufactured/assembled. I want to know if the parts are China Japan, Philippines, Germany etc.
when and if I get a clear answer, I will post here.
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I already tried they did not reply.
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I did better than that I purchesed the 6.5/25/50 athlon scope and it is great alot more scope for the money than I ever emagined no problems on this end infact o had a zeiss a night force and a huskam out the same day I was shooting threw the althlon and it was secound to none .
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Originally posted by wranglerdog wranglerdog wrote:

I did better than that I purchesed the 6.5/25/50 athlon scope and it is great alot more scope for the money than I ever emagined no problems on this end infact o had a zeiss a night force and a huskam out the same day I was shooting threw the althlon and it was secound to none .





This is all the info I needed. It's better than a Huskemaw. Guess I'll buy one...Not.
 



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Well I didnt say it was better what I said was it was secound to none of the three scopes I bad out shooting .but I'll tell you this as far as clairty I could see things I couldn't see in the huskma like the 1 inch green dot I was shooting at it was as clear as if it was right in front of me .

I would recommend the athlon to anyone that likes quality for a reasonable price the athlon is the go to scope .
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I have a difficult time believing a $300 scope is on par with a $1500 NF or Zeiss or Swaro.
I will be getting one and testing it myself. I'll start by comparing it to a Burris and Leu, then go up from there.
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Do as you please I'm giving you my oppion I had a hard time be leaving it myself but I'm an avaid shooter and I do no a good scope when I look threw one that's why that scope is sitting on top of my 7 mag instead of my 223 I put a Zeiss 4/14/44 on my 223 . I have a huskama on my 257 and a nightforce on my 6.5/284 and that athlon is as good as any in my book . if you do get one let me no what your thoughts are you can thank me later .
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Welcome to Optics Talk. Where are you located, Wranglerdog? 
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This is just too painful to follow.
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1. buy a website design from a different company.
2. go to some exhibit or trade show and order 150 pieces each of optical products made in China, custom brand badge and cardboard box included, to be delivered in 30-45 days, to cover the entire product range from good to garbage, to suit various price ranges. Or, order on-line, whatever.
3. advertise with a low advertising budget (this is where wranglerdog earns his keep)
4. sell them
5. hope for a profit
6. If really smart, pay the China exporter after the product is sold




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Just got this response from Athlon:

Hi Trey,

Our CRONUS line is made in Japan by the top notch supplier in the world and rest of scopes are made in China. Comparing with PA, some of our scopes, such as Midas BTR (this is made by the factory that used to make some ELITE Scope) and Argos BTR are advanced fully multicoated and have XPL coating. The biggest difference between us and PA is we offer life time unlimited warranty while you only got one year from PA.

Hope this help you ease some of your concerns. Let me know of you have additional questions.

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Only the binos are made in Japan.

So yes, all their scopes are sourced and made in China. No way on earth they are "on par" with top end Euopean or Japanese optics.
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chinese optics have come a long way over the years take the zen ray binos was cpmparing the prime H.D  to a set a swaro's costing 3 times as much very hard to tell any difference.been told a lot a jap manufactures have moved there ops to china for obvious reasonsExcellent
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For many of us, it's not just about the quality and reliability of a Chinese product. Many on here don't approve of the way the Chinese leaders are doing things or the way they treat the workers. Most are paid a few cents a day for 12-16hr days. Plus, China is one of if not the biggest contributor to world pollution and they refuse to change.

I for one cant in good conscience support them by purchasing their product.
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Says the guy posting with his made in china Iphone. ;)
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Originally posted by wranglerdog wranglerdog wrote:

Well I didnt say it was better what I said was it was secound to none of the three scopes I bad out shooting .but I'll tell you this as far as clairty I could see things I couldn't see in the huskma like the 1 inch green dot I was shooting at it was as clear as if it was right in front of me .

I would recommend the athlon to anyone that likes quality for a reasonable price the athlon is the go to scope .

Originally posted by wranglerdog wranglerdog wrote:

Do as you please I'm giving you my oppion I had a hard time be leaving it myself but I'm an avaid shooter and I do no a good scope when I look threw one that's why that scope is sitting on top of my 7 mag instead of my 223 I put a Zeiss 4/14/44 on my 223 . I have a huskama on my 257 and a nightforce on my 6.5/284 and that athlon is as good as any in my book . if you do get one let me no what your thoughts are you can thank me later .


I've been known to make a typo or two in a post, even - though infrequently - throw in a dangling participle or even use a transitive verb in an intransitive context; however, this thread is becoming a bellwether moment in the degeneration of the written form of English.  Please, in the name of the MLA gods, try harder!

On content:
1.  You fail to mention ranges shot, process of shooting,  or any detail whatsoever (that I would expect of a seasoned shooter), so I am having troubled putting much weight to your words.

2.  There is more to clarity and glass quality than when and how you see a green 1" dot.

3.  One cannot assess the overall performance of a mechanical optical device by"looking threw it." One can assess some optical performance, but without spinning turrets, putting rounds down range, and using in a variety of circumstances, it is a bay-window review, at best.

4.  I've been on this site for several years, have been shooting much longer, and have seen many (MANY) similar posts where someone trumpets a particular new brand as the golden unicorn of optics: cheap and awesome.  It happens often, the company probably sells a few scopes with the free publicity; however, I never see these scopes show up in a winner's circle at any tactical shooting competitions and never see them at the hunting camp.

5.  Nightforce has a well earned reputation, as does Zeiss, and Huskemaw is a joke I will not address at this time; but an anonymous reviewer on the interwebs telling me a no-name chinese optic is better than these will get just the one post.

6.  Vortex, a powerhouse in optics and relative newcomer to the game, established itself - not with anonymous only reviews of avid shooters doing almost nothing in testing, but - by making great scopes at a great price, and letting the performance stand for itself.

7.  Wranglerdog, I can infer from your caliber comments that you value "7 mag" over 223, and that you own a "257" also. I find it interesting that you use such generalizations, and can deduce that you do the same with your optics.

Carry on.
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the quality off the zen rays was excellent ..we all know what goes on over there but not much we can do about that. but you know the old sayin you cant look a gift horse in the mouthExcellent 

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First a disclaimer: I had not heard of Athlon optics until this thread, but I will go visit them during SHOT.

Based on where they are located on the rather well developed product line (or at least product information and pictures), it is probably a company started by a group of former Bushnell employees.  This kind of stuff happens all the time.  For example, at the heart of the new Sig optics are several former Leupold employees.

With Bushnell having gone through some serious transitions in the last few years, it is very natural to has some former Bushnell people who have the connections with the OEMs to want to start something.

I think it is too early to pass judgment simply because of one semi-literate but vocal supporter.

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I was on a site on face book that seamed like there were just a bunch of hipecrits on every time you made a post you were attacked by a bunh of bored pepole that have nothing to do but cridesize and act stupid . well it was easy to get away from it ha ha you guys enjoy yourselves I'm out of here .
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That is very true. Most items we purchase are unfortunately made in China. But when I actually have a choice to purchase or not purchase those items, I take it. A small stand, but a stand none the less.
And I'm also not paying $600 for a Chinese made scope.
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Originally posted by wranglerdog wranglerdog wrote:

I was on a site on face book that seamed like there were just a bunch of hipecrits on every time you made a post you were attacked by a bunh of bored pepole that have nothing to do but cridesize and act stupid . well it was easy to get away from it ha ha you guys enjoy yourselves I'm out of here .

Yet another reason to not be on facebook.

If the generalization is meant to apply here, I'm not sure to what hypocrisy you are referring.

For those who might come after, I would point out that the regulars here are always looking for new products, new makers, and new features to which we have never been exposed.  There is no ill will toward those who bring new things in or to those who have personal experiences with them.  That said, there will always be skepticism toward those that say their $300 scope equals or bests a well known $1500 scope.  We've heard it many times, we've seen it never.  And that scepticism will grow with each vague generalization and with a complete and total lack of detail regarding the evaluations.

On the Zen Ray comment, they are indeed good for the money; however, they aren't the equal of alpha-class stuff.  I heard so many good things, I bought a pair of 10x42 to compare to my go-to pair (Leica Ultravid) and my standby pair (Vortex HD.)  I am happy to discuss that comparison, but suffice to say I was impressed for the price point, but didn't shelve either of the other 2.

Finally,  to newcomers, be aware that new manufacturers (or rebranders) love to come in and mention themselves here - or send a proxy - to hock their wares.  This happens often and is expressly meant to accomplish 2 things:
1.  Sell optics by association ("If it is mentioned on Optics Talk, people will buy it.")
2.  Get hits so the item appears in a google search.

The second isn't terrible, the first is a huge disservice to those who seek advice in real world utility/value.  As a regular, I do my best to help point people in the right direction, no agenda whatsoever; and it bugs me endlessly when others impose their agenda to sucker new buyers.

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on the zen ray comment with the prime HD I struggled to see any difference...if I was buying it would def be the zen ray over the swaro considering the price differenceYippee 
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