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Arizona Shooting Leads to Repeat of Inaccuracies
Thursday, January 13, 2011
Last weekend's shooting rampage in Arizona was a senseless crime against decency, and totally without reason. Trying to portray the actions of an obviously disturbed twenty-two year old shooter as anything other than the actions of a lunatic simply don't wash.

Despite the fact it appears the attack was planned and executed, no sane individual would set out on a Saturday morning with the goal of assassinating a politician and slaughtering anyone who happened to be unfortunate enough to be there. Should Jared Loughner should be spared the death penalty because of diminished capacity? Thankfully (for Loughner) that's not for us to decide.

What we could all do, however, is stop watching and listening silently as the media keeps pushing a one-sided characterization of firearms and their owners.

Since this tragedy, mainstream media has once again repeated half-truths and inaccurate statements with little regard for - or knowledge of- the inaccuracy of their so-called facts. And it seems no one is calling them on those inaccuracies.

One report claims it's easier to buy a gun than to get a prescription filled in Arizona.

Wrong. Every individual purchasing a firearm - nationwide- fills out a federal form that's processed through the NICS system.

No one asks if your prescription is actually going to be taken by you and not given to someone else, if you have any addiction problem or are under any sort of legal constraints for violence or felonious behavior.

Another writer says the GLOCK 19 is popular with "police, sport shooters, and gangsters" and then writes that when it comes to handguns, Arizona's "limits on owning and carrying a gun are among the most permissive in the country". This fact, accepted as gospel by the writer, came from the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

At least that report described the Brady Center as a "gun-control advocacy group."

The extended magazine allegedly used by Loughner was, according to one report, "illegal" until the assault weapons ban (AWB) was allowed to expire in 2004. This apparently evil "clip" allowed Loughner to fire 33 rounds without reloading.

According to Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky, a "forensic expert at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York" quoted in another piece, that magazine in an unto itself proved that Loughner was "not out just to kill...he was there to do a mass killing."

It's hair-splitting, but that magazine was never "illegal" although it remains restricted from sales in some parts of the country. If a high-capacity magazine carried a manufacturing date prior to the AWB's passage, it was perfectly legal. Higher capacity magazines were manufactured during the ban, but we labeled for "law enforcement or military use only".

All the "ban" did was create a category of magazines - "pre-bans" with higher prices. Ditto the firearms that were in the banned assault-weapon category.

As expected, politicians have seized what they see as another opportunity to use a news event to push a political agenda.

U.S. Representative Carolyn McCarthy of New York jumped on the opportunity to once again announce her plan to re-introduce legislation that would ban the "high-capacity magazine". In 1993, McCarthy's husband was one of six killed and her son among those wounded on a Long Island commuter train by another crazed shooter.

This might sound cold-blooded, but McCarthy's political career was launched -and remains sustained - by a single issue: increased regulation until firearms are illegal or unobtainable by average citizens.

Point of fact, handgun sales did spike on Monday.

Like the post-election gun boom that followed President Obama's election, firearms owners reflect the general low esteem in which politicians are currently held by the electorate. Expecting the worst from our elected representatives, citizens try to plan accordingly.

Some politicians, it seems, aren't that much different from average citizens.

According to an op-ed in Wednesday's New York Times, some members of Congress, including Heath Shuler of North Carolina and Jason Chaffetz of Utah, are planning to wear guns in their home districts. The Op-Ed goes on to point out that in the nineteenth century it wasn't unusual for pistols to be worn- and occasionally brandished - in the halls of Congress. The pistols, not surprisingly, were worn to protect Congressmen from each other.

One possible solution offered to keep elected officials safe was the idea of banning pistols within 1,000 feet of Congressmen. One of our editors has suggested that a more reasonable protective measure for all of us would be to ban Congress from coming within 1,000 feet of citizens.

And yesterday, word from Arizona Game and Fish Department that one of their officers made a traffic stop early last Saturday morning after he observed a car run a red light.
AGFD officers don't normally make traffic stops - unless public safety is at risk. Running a red light is one of those instances.

The driver? Jared Loughner.

When Loughner's license and vehicle registration were run through dispatch and came back with no wants or warrants, he was issued a verbal warning and released. That's the way AGFD officers are trained and it was consistent with department policy.

AGFD's releasing the information was smart. Not releasing it could have opened them up to all sorts of speculation and second-guessing.

When it comes to a tragedy like this, it's apparently difficult for officials to admit that the toughest thing to defend against - even if you're in a defensive mode- is the single-assassin with no apparent regard for his -or her- own safety.

http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/223861
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  GOOD read. 
  I've been around long enough (63yrs) to have seen ALOT of these type happenings.  And all along it's seemed that any one person or group of persons who could benefit from such a thing would try. Even those with good intentions.  But when they had drained as much out of it as they could,it was back to normal.  I suspect the same will happen with the Arizona shootings.    
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Ya know i don't see how your going to prevent anything by regulating what can be made now when there are millions and millions of hicap mags in existance that you cant control......its a stupid ideal and was the first go round.  I remember when i got my first glock 22 during the AWB time and it only had 10rd mags, i called up a few local deputies that I was friends with and had several high cap mags within a few days..........
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Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

"We must reject the idea that everytime a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the law breaker" --- Ronald Reagan
 
 AMEN to that. But as I alluded to in my post,ideas like this have gone nowhere in the past.  SHAME.
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Typical opinionated drivel from the loons on the left without any facts to back it up.

Im curious, do you think in your lifetime that you will see an attempt to completely ban firearms and if that day comes what is the outcome if such a law were passed?

Im especially interested in what the older crowd has to say.

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  I don't believe a complete ban will happen.  Even attempts in the past that would have amounted to too much restriction has gotten no where. If anything,I honestly believe more people are waking up to the fact that they need to be able to protect themselves,their own,friends,and even total strangers.  NOT letting down my guard though.
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It's sad to say that one of my thoughts after hearing about this was "oh great, here it comes"

The media is of course all over this and blaming the hard right.

It fills me with rage that totally innocent people, and especially a 9 year old little girl died needlessly at the hands of a nut job. 

He and he alone are to blame.

Too bad a CHL holder didn't take him out...



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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

  I don't believe a complete ban will happen.  Even attempts in the past that would have amounted to too much restriction has gotten no where. If anything,I honestly believe more people are waking up to the fact that they need to be able to protect themselves,their own,friends,and even total strangers.  NOT letting down my guard though.


Exactly how i feel. Well said Earl.


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shooter07   I would expect there to be much more restriction at some point in the future but I doubt it will be in my lifetime ( I'm 55). I have been around long enough to see many of the places I use to hunt and shoot become populated and thus not avaliable anymore, and I live in a very rural area in the south. As I travel around the country and visit large population centers I see a very different demographic from what I am use to , that being people that have spent their whole life in a urban setting and zero exposure to guns other than the news and TV (all bad). Frankly if I lived in NYC, LA, Boston, DC and other high density areas I don't think I would own many guns if any ,because what do you do with them. The idea of going to a indoor range just does not appeal to me. So I can see where over the next couple of generations this will become more and more of the case and eventually the votes will be there to put restrictions in place. It will just be a combination of demographics and loss of habitat for lack of a better term. Just look at the dwindling number of hunters in most states. How long will it take? 30yrs, 50 maybe 100 but at some point it will get to that point. Just MHO.

Edited by powderburn - January/14/2011 at 19:28
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