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i think you'll be fine with the BDC but its whatever you think youll do  is what i would plan for.  That gun sould be a 1MOAish gun which is good and normal for the AR.
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Would you suggest a type of mounting rings as well? Something that will work with an EOP Rail.  I like the BDC just a little nervous that with all of the dots, a quick shot may result in using the wrong dot. 
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Thats why you practice practice practice.  Depending on what type hunting your doing but lets say you call a couple yotes' in and they are at 100yds, you take one and the other scats, hes running and when you get back on him he is getting close to 200 yds away or what not if you know your second BDC mark is good for that distance its great for that second fast follow up shot to try to get a double.  Thats kinda the premise behind the Nikon coyotee special scoeps they sell.  They have gotten great reviews.  
 
 
  With a EOP like that i would use rings vs a one piece like a burris PEPR because of getting a good check weld.  Depending on what exact scope you got and the size of the obj that will determine the ring height you need. 
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Also brady brought up a good point I forgot to mention most BDC reticlesthey are only true on one magnification. so if you sight in useing say 9x then when on 3x the pOI could be different.

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SO if i were to buy the nikoplex... i could site it in on say 3x and switch the turret for distance. but if i go to a 6x or 9x will it still work with the turret?
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if you got the nikoplex you would dial in your distances so it wouldnt be the same for 3x or 9x  its the bdc that would be mag dependant possibly
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alright thanks. i am new to the whole new bdc and turret idea. I have two other scopes and they are just plain out 3X9.
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I have discussed the Nikon Coyote scopes with a guy who had one on the range and while it may work ok he was quite frustrated with the circles.   I have a Nikon Omega with BDC circles and I understand its issues but it is my least favorite scope. I would suggest you keep this simple and use a fixed power scope either a fixed 6x42 Super Sniper which has tactical knobs to dial in correction and mil dots to range find or use as hold over marks or a FX3 6x42 Leupold either in the heavy duplex for low light or the long range duplex which is a BDC reticle.  There are some huge problems with selecting a BDC reticle with a medium to high power top end on a variable. The BDC reticles are typically only true at the maximum magnification of the optic at all lower powers your fiele of view what you see side to side becomes wider as you reduce magnification while the reticle stays the same this is true of all second focal plane scopes. A FFP first focal plane scope reticle can be used for hold over at any magnification and the 3-9x42 Super Sniper has a FFP reticle that is mil dot and the clicks on the knobs are in MIL s so if you need to correct 4.2 mils for  600 yds you can dial in .2  two clicks and hold over using the 4th mil dot down from center.  When you print a balistic chart in Mils you will know how much holdover each mil dot is and what yardage it represents. If you want a traditional optic do yourself a favor and pick one of the ones I mentioned or select any brand of fixed 4x or fixed 6x or a 3- 9 Zeiss Conquest If you are going to hunt coyotes the scope needs to be bright in low light that eliminates high power optics or set it up for prairie dogs and go with a high power optic but spend what it takes to get a decent scope like a Sightron S III
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Did you see the La Rue mount on my 6x42 Super Sniper that is what I would suggest however Super Sniper -  SWFA does have a mount that is a lot less expensive and should work for you.
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does anyone know the ins and outs of Konus? like are they a decent brand? Comparable to who? 
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I have not seen a Konus and the product line is new this year to SWFA. I would venture a guess that Koshkin has seen them at shot show.  Best guess from the price is that it is perfect for those willing to pay nothing and expect everything.  Would I spend my hard earned money on one - NO.  It really cant be worse than a BSA so if you are determined that is what you want be sure and tell us all about it.  If you start off with relatively low expectations it may be something that will get you bye untill you are willing to upgrade.  If you would rather buy one time and have the scope last a lifetime try the 6x42 Super Sniper or a Leupold or a Zeiss Conquest or at least a Vortex and while Vortex does not have as many years of proven reliability as the others I mentioned they do have a wonderful warranty. I would buy a Pentax a long time before I would buy a Konus at least Pentax has 50+ years in the camera business so they know lenses and are very value priced.
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Another option is the EOtech with a 3X magnifier, which might be a little more out of your range, but leopold has a new reflex sight out, the HAMR I believe, might be worth looking into to see if it fits your needs.
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What about the Vortex Viper 2-7?  Couple reticles that would work for moving targets, and on sale still I do believe...spend extra money on beer.
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Posting in this Topic because of subject, not to highjack the post. I have a Bushmaster AR-15 Flattop and want to leave the iron sights on but would like to have a nice scope. Budget around $1,000. I'm looking at the Trijicon ACOG TA31F and will be "mainly" hunting hogs in Texas. Don't have a clue about distances but I can't imagine anything but between 50 to 300 yards max. I like the Trijicon because of the reputation and it looks sexy (anyone know what I mean). Am I nuts or on the right track?

Thanks a bunch for any help.
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I think after about 200 yds your ability to put presice shots goes downhill with an ACOG, especially with the Chevron reticle.  I just tested out a grendel with that exact ACOG on it and while it is accurate i did want more precision. Maybe more magnification hunting hogs at those distances? Maybe the 3-9 accupoint? 

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Assuming that we're still talking about coyote hunting...
The heart-lung area of a coyote is about the same size as a 1-liter soda bottle on its side. Whatever sighting method and distance you want to use ought to take that into account. They might be vermin infested and mangy, but I still don't like to watch cripples limp off to die slowly.

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Thought I would jump in here. I  have an RRA with a 20" Varmint barrel (on layaway). Want to go on a P dog trip next year. Been checking out scopes...and been lurking here. Will mostly be shooting paper..and steel out to max of 300yds.....which is our range max. Then possibly check out decreasing the coyote population in my area. This is my first AR...been a shotgun/pistol guy. Two scopes on my "short" list are the SS 10x42..and  the Hawke Sidewinder 30 4.5-14x42. Would like to keep the budget at $500...max. Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by Short Shot Short Shot wrote:

Thought I would jump in here. I  have an RRA with a 20" Varmint barrel (on layaway). Want to go on a P dog trip next year. Been checking out scopes...and been lurking here. Will mostly be shooting paper..and steel out to max of 300yds.....which is our range max. Then possibly check out decreasing the coyote population in my area. This is my first AR...been a shotgun/pistol guy. Two scopes on my "short" list are the SS 10x42..and  the Hawke Sidewinder 30 4.5-14x42. Would like to keep the budget at $500...max. Any thoughts?



I'm having a radical rethink. Checked out an ACOG..3x30. at the "local" store. I will have to save up for it...but I think for an overall scope for my AR..and the fact that I may only shoot P dogs once a year this may be the best bang for my buck.
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Re thinking the ACOG......eye relief was sketchy. So now I am totally confused. My friends think I am "over thinking" on a choice for this rifle. Maybe they are right....(sigh).   Whacko 
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The 1.5x compact ACOG has more eye relief but the 3x version is quite useable I have one in a La Rue RCO mount which places it at the back of the rail.
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Went back and re-read this. So...I'm thinking either the ACOG or the 6x24 SS M. May actually get the SS...due to the price point... with the SWFA S.S.A.L.T. 30mm/1inch mount. Seems like a lot of scope for the money...and the reviews are positive.
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I really like the Vortex Viper PST in Mil or MOA. Anybody have one?
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I will be at Shot Show in January I will see if I can pick some up.
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