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    Posted: April/13/2019 at 15:46
I am not sure if this is the right forum, but we do not have a flashlight forum, so...

I am planning to go take a night class with my AR-15 carbine, so I need to mount a flashlight onto it.  The handguard (apparently known as the nadguard in the UK) has a picatiiny rail on top and m-lok at 3 o'clock position.  There are also m-lok slots at 9 o'clock, but this is a FoldAR, so I can't mount anything big on there.

I would like a flashlight that has a pressure switch since I do not see a convenient way to pulse it on using a tailcap when it is mounted on the right side of the handguard.

I would much prefer to not spend some ridiculous amount of money on Surefire X400.

Any ideas?

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PAH! Ilya, you made me spit tea over my key board!

"Nadguard"! Nads are slang in the UK for testicles (Contraction of gonads)!

I realise you mean handguard but still sounded funny.

Presumably you nadguard protects your Tac-Sac? In which case seems a vital piece of equipment...


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Anyone has experience with this one:  https://www.swfa.com/inforce-wmlx-rifle-carbine-gen-2-light.html

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Does SWFA sell nadguards? I'm scared to click the link!
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ILya, I use the NightEyes gun light and it stomps my Surefire 9p. He has one that has 3colors including white. 
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I'm at home and don't have access to my work e-mails, but we're researching patrol rifles at work right now. KSP is issuing new patrol rifles to all it's Troopers, and they have a list of recommended lights, and optics (dot sights) for the troopers. When I can, I'll forward the information to you.   
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Thank you.

I really like the idea of ambidextrous operation without need for cables, hence the interest in the Inforce WML.

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I have a few Streamlights, they aren't as sturdy as Surefire, but they are good lights. And are far less expensive that Surefire.
I would not take one to war as my primary weapon light, but I would take it most other places.

And they have a version that strobes, which is a good feature.
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I don't know if Fenix has a dedicated mount type light, but they do have flashlights with push button end caps and pressure pads you can add.

But on the Fenix quality.  I have been carrying a PD25 in my pocket now for going on 5 years.  I use it multiple times per day.  I can't count how many times I have dropped it.  One time was from high up on a 10 ft ladder.  It has been washed 5 or 6 times after I forgot to take it off my pants.  It just keeps working and has just been a great flashlight.

I have several others of them, another PD25 my wife carries, then a PD35, 4 of the LD22s we keep in the vehicles, and two of the LD12s that my boys have claimed and use all the time. 

I have had several Streamlights, and every one of them has failed within a year.  With not really that much use.  I was very disappointed in them.    I have had one Surefire, just one of their cheaper ones and I lost it, but it always worked, but that was years ago before LED, so it sucked batteries like crazy. 

Fenix in my opinion is a great light and a great value.  They have so many options and lights for different uses and with different settings.  They seem almost indestructible to me. 

A lot of their lights use their rechargeable batteries or regular batteries.  I bought 4 of the 16340 rechargeable for my PD25 and have charged them tons of times and 5 years later, they still are ticking.  The big 18650 batteries for the PD35 will run forever at the lower settings. 
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The recommended (not mandated) lights are Streamlight ProTac rail type 2 mount. They have 650 lumen.
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On the streamlight, I should say that I use just one model, I'll get the model #.

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I use the ProTac Rail Mount lights... 1000 lumen
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On the Crimson Trace light/laser combo, don't bother. I put that very setup on a rifle and really don't care for it. Operating buttons are a bit hard to press, and the light button is way too small and hard to find and press. I also loose a lot of light because the barrel and hand guard block it. The laser setup is OK but not great, but the light setup just falls far short of what it needs to be.
ILya, for you, a light with a button on the back that you could activate with your thumb would probably be ideal. You don't have to find a place to mount the pressure switch and run the wire to the light that isn't in the way or hanging loose.
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One of my concerns is that I practice shooting right handed an delft handed.  Ambidextrous operation could be valuable and I am not sure how to set that up with a tailcap.

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the obvious would be two lights.  if small enough, that seems doable.
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Your Inforce might be doable with either hand, but you may need to mount it as far forward on the hand guard as you can.
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ILya, I forwarded an e-mail to you.
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do you use a forward grip? a pressure switch on that seems like it would be ambidextrious with light at 9 o'clock
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I have a surefire with push-button activation and it works fine with either hand. I also have the streamlights that have a rocker in the back, which works even better. Flipped one way it is on, flipped the other it momentary on.

I don't like vertical grips as I use a hand stop as far forward as possible, allowing me to drive the muzzle.

My ARs are all suppressed, which, admittedly, changes things quite a bit.
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Vertical grips do not work for me.

I think I will get WML fro Inforce and a more conventional Streamlight and experiment.

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